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  • Asgedet December 31, 2011

    The discussion started off a bit slow and boring but later on it picked up momentum when the issue of external intervention took a life of its own. Dr. Asefaw is of the opinion that, the credibility of Ethiopia could only be sanctified when Ethiopia honours the EEBC decision where by the border is demarcated. His rationale goes, if Ethiopia abides by the verdict, Isaias will lose his bargaining chip in a bid to stay in power. Moreover, Isaias will face difficulty in demobilizing the four thousand plus Eritreans in a military service in the aftermath of the demarcation. As I see it, Dr. Asefaw’s argument is lame to say the least simply because, the demarcation issue and the need for an external help in a bid to topple Isaias are remotely connected. The only time, one could argue for a demarcation is when one consolidates power where one is able to pull strings in a tit for tat dynamics. That is, the Opposition including the likes of Dr. Asefaw do not have the leverage to press Ethiopia to abide by the verdict when the Opposition is in need of help either from Ethiopia or any other foreign power. Moreover, the short term strategy of the Opposition needs to be clearly defined where the primary policy is to use Ethiopia as a pawn to topple PFDJ.

  • yasin December 31, 2011

    Wonderful thoughts by all the panelists and thanks Amanuel too. Happy new year all!!!!

  • Mr. T December 31, 2011

    Part-1
    Dr. Asefaw’s argument on the border demarcation is commendable. However, the reasons he gave are weak. The owners of the final and binding verdict are the Eritrean people and not the PFDJ regime. The argument that the PFDJ will be the winner if the border is demarcated is utterly stupid. Whether the PFDJ benefits from the demarcation of the border or not is not the issue here. We have the woyane regime occupying Eritrea’s territory in violation of international laws. PERIOD! The occupied land is not PFDJ’s land. It is Eritrea’s land. We have thousands of Eritreans displaced from their homes along the border areas, and they have been living in the most appalling conditions for over 13 years in makeshift while the barbaric woyane regime has been resettling their homes and farming lands with its own people. (Mr T=Tsahaye)

    • Mr. T December 31, 2011

      Part-2:
      If the people on the opposition movements are unable to feel the pain of displaced Eritreans, how much credibility can they have to talk about democracy and human rights in Eritrea? The demarcation of the border is paramount to the integrity of our nation and for the peaceful co-existence of Eritreans with their Ethiopian neighbors. The demarcation has nothing to do with the PFDJ regime. It is woyane’s fabrication to blackmail the tragic OOSUB and the gullible. The demarcation of the border is an international issue. Encouraged by its life-line masters, however, the barbaric woyane has refused to abide by the final verdict in violation of international laws and norms. The immediate demarcation of the border without any preconditions will not only guarantee peace and cooperation between the two countries but it will also unite Eritreans who are so much polarized to the point of no return. (Mr. T=Tsahaye)

      • sol December 31, 2011

        But you are using a mistaken argument as if millions of Eritreans were living in Badme before May 98?But the reality the whole Eritrea enters in unending suffering by the war mongering act of the regime, hundred thousand of Eritreans forced to live in refugee camp in Tigray, unaccounted in Sudan , many died in deep sea, thousand killed and their body parts sold, etc. But for the opportunist and a worshiper of Gudli, they do not care if the Whole population decimated and if they live in their comfort of Western nation.There would not be any Eritrean soul would be wasted any more for the sake of keeping a psychopath in power for the rest of his life

      • Abnet Tesfai January 1, 2012

        PART 1
        Mr. T
        happy new year.
        I could read some important points in your comment.
        In my personal view, the suspending of the demarcation of the border may not be as easy as we think about it. First the conflict itself was not a border conflict. It was an excuse to fulfill their hidden goals. As external observer no one can understand these hidden agendas. The two dictators have almost the same background to come to power and have developed their own mechanism how to kidnap people’s liberty and stay in power. Both of them have used to lie and cheat to the people.
        Any justification specially for the Eritrean misery to the border issue is completely specious.
        first and foremost, many were martyred for the many. Our heroes were not passing away to to put the dictator in to power for 20-years and Eritrean to be killed, thrown to jail without Justis, and to flood to exile. They shouted for liberty and get dead.
        so what does LIBERTY mean?…
        few of its meaning…..
        freedom of living in your country,
        freedom of working and owning in your country
        freedom of speaking
        freedom of writing
        freedom of Justis
        freedom of vote…….. etc…etc
        all these and others are not in our country contrary to our martyrs
        wishes. our martyrs were betrayed by the dictator.
        so how stupid we are to point our problems to Woyane.

        • Abnet Tesfai January 1, 2012

          part 2
          Mr. T
          I know it is a dream and joke for us for Eritreans to allow woyane to talk about our own problems as they may talk putting their hidden interest.
          let’s see inside our self
          it is disgusting to see our people displaced from their own home and living in a place they were not used to live. to see woyane in our land seems shame for us. but we had gained badme and other areas. legally we have upper hand which is a bottle neck for now and the future. as the conflict was not border issue woyanes stay in our land may not be because they wanted to own it. they know it belongs to Eritrean, sooner or later they will be evacuated, we know too. at this a very critical moment what is urgent for Eritreans is how to prevent the people from dispersing all over the world and save the victims of Sinai and the Mediterranean sea.

          • Abnet Tesfai January 1, 2012

            Mr. T
            part 3
            it is shameful for us that we have fought bravely and scarified all what we had for our liberation but now to be ruled by a single person. hard to believe it.
            many people of the world are now despising us when they see us to support to the dictator. especially those who knew us during the armed struggle for our sprite. the current sprite is opportunistic and evil sprite. self prioritizing, and fawning. but there are heroic Eritreans in all over the world speaking loudly for freedom and democracy to prevail in our country. may they live long and may their number increase to 5-million and more
            to sum up, the Eritrean people enemy is within Eritrea.
            WISHING THE BEST

          • Mr. T January 1, 2012

            Selam Abnet Tesfai,

            I am really touched by the contents of your well written comments. I don’t think there is any difference of views between you and I about the current problems of Eritrea. We have been our own worst enemies. It does not matter whether one is on the opposition’s side or on the regime’s. We sadly lack unity of purpose how to solve our crucial problems. We are so divide and squeezed almost to the point of death by two equally ruthless enemies: the woyane regime which keeps putting its hands in the affairs of Eritreans so that they remain divided and the one-man led PFDJ regime which has no desire of ruling the nation by a rule of law.

            Happy New Year!

  • arcobaleno December 31, 2011

    kill the so called artists ( singers), who support Issayas, Hgdef has played with us until now, we should stop them wherever they appear. this traitors will never be forgotten in the history of our nation. their selfishness is beyond any immaginable behaviour. they are filling up the bags of our killers. Issayas used and still uses the boundary and badme cause to disable us from any engagement pertaining our national problems. We cannot ask the implemtation of the constitution, we cannot challenge him whenever he takes any arbitrary measures, he ruled for two decades because the Badme occupation, which was deliberatly provoked by him , to prolong his power.

    • danny December 31, 2011

      The only Eritrean artist that ever lived in an artist’s true definition was Yemane Barya. Everyone else as far as I can see is a mouth piece that isn’t better than dimtsi hafash itself.

  • danny December 31, 2011

    Dr. Asefaw claimed that the Eritrean government declared victory when the EEBC came out with its decisions almost ten years ago. The Eritrean government always claims victory in the face of defeat, there is nothing new there. What it does not talk about during its empty bravado is that it agreed with the finding of of the EECB that it is responsible for igniting the war, which makes every other issue associated with the war to be a consequence. When it comes to the border war, the question is not whether the border needs to be demarcated or not; the crucial question is why did the Eritrean government jumped into war without consulting with the Eritrean people and without exhausting all venues to solve a border issue before driving its mechanized brigade into Ethiopian controlled territory to ignite a war. What happened after that is that The Eritrean dictator lost the war and lost much more territories as a consequence of its irresponsible adventure. Eritreans should not dwell on demarcation. Eritreans should demand the resignation of a government that drove them into one war after the in total contempt it has for them. As long as the Dictator stays in power, it will not run out of excuses as Dr. Asefaw would want us to believe.

    • Mr. T December 31, 2011

      People are not interested about who started the war because it is already settled in a court of arbitration once for all in case you are not ware of it. People are now talking about honoring a commitment the barbaric woyane had signed. The two parties had agreed to abide by the final and binding verdict, and there is no room for wiggling around. It is FINAL if you can understand it. If you are trying to defend the barbaric woyane’s excuses for refusing to let the border demarcation, be courageous and say it clearly. FYI, Eritrea’s internal problem has nothing to do with the issue of the border problem between the two countries. However, individuals like you have one important purpose and that is to make sure Eritrea becomes a failed state. To your dismay, however, that won’t happen. (Mr. T=Tsahaye)

      • danny December 31, 2011

        Eritrea is a failed state whichever way you slice your words, it is not going to change that fact. If a state that locks half a million of its youth in a forced labor camp while the rest of its population spends the majority of its day at a government shop for a slice of bread in 2011 in the name of border is not a failed state, I don’t know what is? You may want to forget why there was a border war to start with while you want to settle a border issue at the same time with your lopsided brain. But such weird mentality only has currency in PFDJ’s Eritrea hence its troubles with the rest of the world’s outlook about normalcy. For your information, I don’t hear the weyanes cry over a border war as much as you goofs do. You want your border? Go and get it. The weyanes are not interested in handing it to you. They just like to see Eritrea’s suicidal stance on the issue from afar because they very well know Eritrea, which cannot have its house in order, is not a match to them at all.

    • Abnet Tesfai January 1, 2012

      danny
      well done. very insightful argument. thank you very much.

  • Yohannes January 1, 2012

    If same one fellow the struggle against HGDEF since 2001 (when G15 was arrested), Dr. Asefaw always fellow steps of Mesfin Hagos(Aka Hayna). At first their slogan was HGDEF should be removed and suddenly they came up with other slogan “NETHEGINO” What a Joke! Dear Dr. think other ppl also have a brain and the can think. I am always suspicious of this false Dr. Now all his argument doesn’t make sense to me. What assurance do we have after border demarcation wedi medehin berad will change for good? You came back to “METHIGAN” again; which is foolish to me as well as to any simple lay person in Eritrea. Please Dr. don’t lose your credibility just keep quit.

  • FACT-is-FACT January 1, 2012

    (Mr. T=Tsahaye),
    You seem to either deliberately deny the FACTS on the ground! You at least seem to command the English language in proper grammatical sentences whichmeans you are capable of addressing your train-of-thoughts in a respectful manner, but you can’t as you seem to be imprisoned by emotional bursts. (a) FACT 1: You spit so much hatred of the “weyane” . You are entitled to. But, if you are spitting this much venom to a powerful “enemy” that has a bigger stick and that is occupying your land, how on earth would you ever be able to diplomatically debate with the “barbaric weyane” to get things moving. You are the loser at this point. “weyane” has secured its land & People’s security by penetrating & securing 25KM deep into your territory.

    ..cnt’d

  • FACT-is-FACT January 1, 2012

    ..cnt’d

    (b) FACT 2: Weyane on world & local media have said it millions times, that in order to demarcate the border, we need to first face-to-face and so the intrictaed border life of the people is addressed realstically so the people that live in that environs are the primary interface of each other and ultimate WINNERS of a true demarcation that addresses every sector of their livelihood. Nothig wrong with this realstic approach (why fear it before one interfaces it & deals with it. who is hiding what here) as the people’s life is intertwined in life-N-death, if you are an honest person and care about the ordinary people.

    (c) FACT 3: the “barbaric weyane” is hosting thousands of Eritrean refugees, to the point where it let many to go to Universities. Eritrea being a FAILED state -note under PFDJ- established NO single Higher institutions (be it college or University)! deny !?

  • FACT-is-FACT January 1, 2012

    ..cnt’d

    (d) FACT 4: The sad reality is Eritrea has countless (unlike some I am expressing my dismay of the panelists in a respectful way) highly educated, who have sacrificed their entire life-time in freeing Eritrea from outside colonialsts. However, they (these highly educated personas) have, just like PFDJ, failed Eritrea and its people. One expects them, considering their education & political exposure, to forsee things beyond a layman, and preparing & organizing themselves way before 1991 (meaning independent of the policies of those who hold the stick) . But, the FACT is even the Eritrean educated & intellects have their own problem & deficiencies (There has to be) that is indifferent of ordinary Eritreans & PFDJ itself especially in their failure of EVEN organizing and doing something at the OUTSET of the last 10 years alone.

  • FACT-is-FACT January 1, 2012

    …cnt’d
    One wonders: if the educated, from an educated people point-of-concern could have called eachother and called emergency gathering in Berlin, albeit making it a exclusive meeting and one, its aftermath, which contributed to mistrust, and in fact that may have been the turning point of educated Eritreans signaling that they, too, are as exclusive, as the PFDJ and the oppostion political groups. Cuban educated & Intellects failed for 50+ years only 90miles away. why ? Could it be that they have walked thru the path of Eritrean educators have been walking. The few Eritrean educated that are continuing the fight day & night working so hard would have to re-examine the way they have been, ineffectively, executing things. B’cuz it has taken them (all of us) nowhere thus far. Pray, Eritrea doesn’t end up like Cuba in Cuba & Cubans in Miami.

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