Fetsum: From the Forum
Fetsum: From the Forum As I keep penetrating deeper in to the nucleus of the Eritrean society which is a compound of nine nationalities I get challenged by the reality that I cannot positively affect it
Fetsum: From the Forum
As I keep penetrating deeper in to the nucleus of the Eritrean society which is a compound of nine nationalities I get challenged by the reality that I cannot positively affect it without disintegrating the issues encapsulated within the nine social elements destined to live a mandatory ever-lasting coexistence. I found that the Eritrean complicated sociological fabrics will continue causing problems to the society without Eritreans facing them with completely independent state of mind. Fear, pretention, obstinacy, arrogance, hatred and vulgarity have been the causes of our demise in this challenging experience; the opposite methods of relationship should then be the order of the moment to solve the problems once and for all. Nitsemem, Keybluni, Keikuri, kurub emo nirayo; kirkeiblo; keseyilkayu, etc BS destroyed our unity so thus we should try freedom of speech without inhibition and affiliation to understand each other and live peacefully and respectfully ever after. You will never make it with pretension and attachment to your religions, ethnicities and your parents. A Moslem, a Christian or whatever you may be you cannot solve the common problem without becoming your inner self by refusing your ego, religion, and ethnicity or identify to dictate your spirituality, sense of judgment and moral integrity; I feel sorry for the people that live in fear because of confinement to their little ethnical or religious circles.
There is no extent of fear between the Eritrean elites that can be experienced better than conducting meetings with two languages, a native and a foreigner. This unique made in Eritrea style of communication that drags the society by half its life time and essence could not have originated from love, respect to each other and democracy but rather from suspicion, disrespect, fear, lack of confidence, trust and vision, hasadnet and what have you my dear people. You cannot do this willingly without deep ethnic/religion affiliated internal problems in relation to the Eritrean society and a distorted understanding of democracy. It was never practiced before and will never be practiced in other societies! That is why it is important for us to discuss it. Luckily I hope this will die out swiftly because only the countable few dictate it on us all to be so. We don’t like it. We cannot kill the society for the psychological debacle of few elite dictators.
You can deny this for image but cannot face your intelligence in privacy because you are a human being with commonsense knowing what you are doing in this regard. This opinion only applies to the adult Eritreans (from all religions) in practice of this destructive interference not to the kids that unfortunately are condemned to adopt this divisive and pretentious life style through their parents.
From the last forum
andinet hizbay: “one day you ll come to the conclusion that we were deceived .we died for the cause of arabs. the useful idiots ( Christian ) and the slaves of arabs,wanna be arabs brought misery to our life. we were better off when we were with ethiopia
Dear Futsum the wanna be arabs ,the elites despite their language and identity.what about u do believe that u are Tigraway or or the fake name given hizbe Tigrigna inorder to distance our self from our brothers Tegaru. First lets admit that we are Proud Tegaru then we can ask the the wanna be arabs to respect their language”
Dear Futsum the wanna be arabs ,the elites despite their language and identity.what about u do believe that u are Tigraway or or the fake name given hizbe Tigrigna inorder to distance our self from our brothers Tegaru. First lets admit that we are Proud Tegaru then we can ask the the wanna be arabs to respect their language”
Answer: We were never deceived as long as our independence struggle was concerned. Our struggle against the Ethiopian colonialism was as just as any third world’s struggle against colonialism. No one but we decided to liberate ourselves from the Ethiopian colonizers: No Arab or whatever here, it was exclusively our decision about our condition of the time. The concept of ANDNET to me is strictly limited within the Eritreans for we have nothing to unite for with other societies and specially the Ethiopians that don’t fully respect our nationhood!! Unity is a matter of choice not obligation.
I grew up comfortably and respectfully in Makelle, a town I consider my hometown until the Eritrean independence changed my situation similar to that of all Eritreans as a society, although I was always aware of my Eritreawinet from the let go. I loved the Tigreans specially Deki Mekelle and I still love them enough to consider them my brothers. I, however, don’t believe I am Tigrawai because I am not. For what I certainly know, I am an Eritrean from the Tigrigna ethnic group. There is a fundamental difference between the two concepts of identification: Tigrawai is a Tigrigna speaker from Ethiopia and the other is a Tigrigna speaker Eritrean like me. There is no fake name given to Hizbi Tigrigna that I know of to make me distinct from the Tegaru because the Eritrean Identity is equally significant to that of the Tegaru’s. I see the two societies as people of the same origin but different in psychological makeup and territorial definition. None of them originated from the other for they were in their respective and distinct geographic locations at the same time since their existence: One of them remained Ethiopian and the other became Eritrean by circumstantial conditions beyond our control like the experience of all other African societies. The fact remains that the Eritrean Tigrigna speakers cannot be proud of being Tegaru because they are not: They should be proud if they may for being Eritreans and their original habesha roots. Let the Tegaru be proud of being Tegaru but this expression has nothing to do with any Eritrean there is. We meet at our roots level of our being equally without one having the arrogance to exclusively claim the roots. We are Eritrean habeshas and the Tegaru are Ethiopian habeshas and none of us can exclusively claim the roots.
The Tigrigna language and culture are the common elements between Tegarus and Eritrean kebessians that no one can dictate terms in this subject matter except legitimately accepting the fact that we were equally important as far as our roots was concerned. The Tegarus are indigenous to Tigrai like we were indigenous to Eritrea, still having had the same roots but we are now conditioned to live as Eritreans and Ethiopians with no alternative to accepting this and moving on forward.
Asghedom: “Andenat Hisbay what makes un happy is hate created purposely by Arabs. You have to know the unit of Tegaru (Tigrigna speaking people from Tigray and Eritrea ) is a real force and everyone is Afraid of it.“
Answer: I disagree; and I am not afraid of it because it has nothing to do with what I am. No Arab created the Eritrean identity; circumstances did: the Eritrean identity was natural to be there like that of any other societies in the world including the Tigreans. Why do you want to scare others through you illusive unity of tegaru anyway instead of trying to live in harmony with all elements in the region? Real force against who is the most important question that I must answer here, which seems to be against the rest of the Eritreans; something impossible to accept. My strength as an Eritrean Tigrigna speaker is only achievable through unity with my fellow Eritreans and not with the Tegarus because the Eritreans, all inclusive are more important and closer to me than the Tegarus or any other Ethiopians at this juncture in the go, with all respect to the Tegarean people and the Ethiopians at large.
The term “Eritrea” may be given by the Italians but the term “Ethiopia” was also given by the Europeans (Greeks). “The name Ethiopia derived, from the Greek form, aithiopia, from the two words aitho, “I burn”, and ops, “face”. It would hence mean the colored man’s land — the land of the scorched faces. The Greeks called all peoples south of Egypt (particularly the area now known as Nubia; modern usage has transferred this name further south to the land and peoples known in the late 19th and early 20th century as Abyssinia) Ethiopians.”
We Eritreans and Ethiopians did not create our identifications by ourselves; the Europeans did it for us. The term Eritrea and Ethiopia are therefore equally foreign and significant in this regard. In so saying, “TEGARU” is a name given to Tigrigna speaking Tigreans; it doesn’t represent the Eritreans. The Tigrians and a portion of the Eritreans may be classified as Tigrigna speaking people but not as TEGARU since this term implies only to the Tigreans.
Said unity of Tegaru based on your definition is immaterial to me compared to the unity of the Eritreans. The priority now is the unity of Eritreans not the unity of your Tegarus, needless to say that Eritreans cannot be identified by the terminology that strictly implies to the Tigrean Ethiopians. Eritrean Tigrigna speakers are not Tegarus but Eritreans. There is no doubt, however, that we are brothers by blood with common roots and that we should help each other to solve our common problems: poverty and ignorance!!
Habibi: “I am a Christian born from Kebessa in the same way as the Jeberties are Moslem born from Kebessa. The only difference I see is the religion which is not brought about by our own choices. What I frankly don’t understand here is what is the social or political gain one can have in suddenly feeling like Arab or any other race? The religion doesn’t make one an Arab because there are also Christian Arabs… So why is all this nonsense being discussed here ? After all these years of struggle and martyrdom that we all have gone through together, should it not be the highest time we worked together for a common cause that would serve our co-existence as a nation ?”
Response: I agree with Habibi. We fought hard for respect and the only way we can actualize the objective is by respecting ourselves and our values. The Eritreans sacrificed everything to bring independence and they should co-exist at their fundamental natural self as Eritreans. We have rich cultures with authentic languages that we don’t need a foreign language to interfere in our lives more than ours. We have a lot to lose doing this and we should not. Our natural languages are our identity marks that we can neither change nor detach from for another identity.
Kombishtato: “Why do some elite Muslims want to burn indigenous Eritrean languages such as Tigre? Why are the the Somalis, Afars Iranians, Turkish, Khurdish, Amharas,Oromos, Pashtuns, Tigrayans, Urdus … all with significant Muslims among them very proud of their languages, but the elite Muslims of Eritrea so ashamed to burn their own languages and heritage? What is the source of this deep rooted inferiority complex in Eritrea predominantly seen among elite Muslims? “
Response: First of all we should understand that the people that tend to undermine our indigenous languages are very few in number and don’t represent their communities. The truth still remains that all Moslems of the world respect their languages and don’t mix Arabic with their identities like the very few Eritrean elites do because of the Holy Koran. We are unique in this situation and we need to rationally rectify the problem through transparent communication not through anger oriented linguistic dictatorship. Most of our people are proud of their heritage..PERIOD!
Tes: “We should be bold and confront to those diaspora Eritreans who want to impose foreign language while belittled their own language. They don’t have any valued reason to make Arabic an official language of Eritrea. It is really amusing to see so many of them here to defend Arabic language and trying to own it. I don’t see the need for referendum whether we can agree to make Arabic an official language or not. If Arabic is one of the contenders to be an official language then I would rather see Chinese to be our official language.
Response: I agree with you Tes. There is no reason and place for Arabic in the Eritrean society except living with maximum respect of the language because of the Holy Koran and our Rashaidas. Simply, it is foreign to us Eritreans except for the Rashaidas that I believe are Eritreans as well. I disagree that the Rashaidas were “our enemy no one. I don’t believe they are one of Eritreans nationalities” because they are part of us again by virtue of circumstances. Some of them may have “inflicted enough suffering on Eritreans and cannot imagine to include them into the family of Eritreans.” But I don’t think they inflicted suffering on us more than the Christians and the fanatic Moslems did. This is something we have to work on together and rectify in due time in decent and transparent Eritrea.
durbush: “Dear hhmmm; please don’t write about weyanne they don’t have time to dibate with you to divided as .We are to far from them so don’t blame weyane just blame your self. Enough is enough weyane weyane. Donkoro .”
Response: I agree that we should take responsibility for our condition and leave the Tigreans alone but I do not like the last expression in the comment.
Noor: “All Muslim Eritrea want Arbic to Eritrea national language, stop accusing Our our brother Jeberti”
Comment: This is a fabrication and nobody accused the Jeberties as people except few spoilers from that group and other Eritrean ethnic groups. Noor is a very emotional dude with strong attachment to the Arabs and specially their language. He assumes all our Moslems want Arabic for national language more than their authentic languages. This is not true and he can’t prove it statistically. He also has a problem relating things to the Jeberties and accusing people of abusing this ethnic group in this discussion instead of logically dealing with the issue minus that social group. The issue is about national language and not about Eritreans. He has to understand that there are very few Eritrean elites like him from the Jeberty community that advocate Arabic for a national language like those in few other ethnic groups including the Christians; and that we have to deal with them because this is a national issue that concerns us equally. Discussing the matter has nothing to do with abusing our Jeberties but only challenging the few confused and confusing elites like him on the merit. Please don’t relate this to the Jeberties because the issue is not about them but about whether Arabic was legitimate in Eritrea as a supreme language or not. The Jeberties come here in the process but not as the main subject of the matter. This is not about any portion of the people but about our national language/s.
Salahadin: You don’t have any idea about islam, if you know the history of Eritrean muslim they were speaking Arabic .this arbic is choiced by Allah, every muslim in eritrea should be speaking arab (luketul jenna) wich means language of the heaven.
Response: We have as good an idea as you have about Islam. To the contrary you don’t understand Islam because you would not have been related to Arabic more than any other Moslem in the world, otherwise. You are unique here and this reality tells that you don’t understand Islam the way the rest of the Moslems do. I would expect the hard core Talibans to practice what we practice but they did not buy this nonsense: Afghanistan (99% Moslems) uses Pashto and Dari Urdu as its national language. We are the only people that wrongly understand the relationship between Arabic and Islam on this planet, yet we are not better Moslems than other Moslem societies. We therefore have a problem with this unconventional self consciousness!!
Our Moslems are related to the Koran through the Arabic language and they should learn it in order to understand the Holy book at least to the extent that they can pray on it. This is their right but Arabic should stop at this point of the relationship in Eritrea. Eritrea cannot be the only nation that makes special connection to Arabic without valid explanation.
This is similar to the Christians in relation to Geez vis-à-vis the DAWIT. The Christians, however, don’t have to impose Geez on the society because of the DAWIT since they have their Tigrigna to communicate with. This should apply to our Moslems unless you are biased and unfair in this situation. Once you enforce the Arabic in our society because of the Koran, you must as well enforce the Geez in the same because of the DAWIT; yet you will be the only society that practices this weird relationship between religion and the people’s cultural values. Anything else is fanaticism, bias and inconsistent!! Why do you trap yourself in this exceptional mess and for what?
Hassan: “I strongly believe that the people who are attacking the Arabic language and the Arabes as well as the jeberty are doing it from their stand point against the muslims in general and the other ethnic groups of Eretria . It looks like they have an agenda against the unity of the Eretrians. They are seeding hate among the Eretrians . Beware!!!”
Response: This is confusion and unreal, needless to say that it is also blackmail. You are trying to captivate the Eritrean psych through guilt consciousness, a terrible and unjust means of psychological manipulation. You want to be an exceptional Moslem in the world at the expense of rationality and the entire society at large without any academic explanation. Yet, you want us to suffer the consequence without resistance through your blackmail. Do you see what you are doing and how abusive you may be?
Don’t shade your crocodile tears here to enforce your thoughts in the society. Deal with facts and issues if you may. Arabic is illegal to be the national language of Eritrea and believing in this does not make me anti Jeberti or Moslems, therefore you should live your hallucination privately and don’t try to promote your backward mentality through guilt consciousness.
Attacking the Jeberties unconditionally is indeed against Eritrean unity but condemning the Arabs of discrimination against Africans is genuine and correct. There is no connection between the Arabs and the Eritrean unity at all and the argument is very poor in logic that a rational mind should reject. Eritrean Moslems can relate to Arabic but should not be allowed to impose it on us based on the Holy Koran. In fact, to the contrary, I see people that infatuate with Arabic beyond necessary and that go to the extent of respecting it more than our languages have a problem with the Eritrean unity. You cannot undermine the Eritrean native languages in favor of a foreign language without threatening the Eritrean unity for both are mutually inclusive. Therefore resisting Arabic has no value in the relationship between the Eritreans and the Jeberties or the Moslems nor is it a reflection of hating the two elements in the society. You are actually the one doing this through your outrageous mentality; Sir!!
bravo: “ Look, z writer told us that he doesn’t worship any religion and he argued it is his right. But i don’t agree if i use his line of reasoning he has given us in his arguement about language choice. You know what? 98% of Eritreans are religous people, half of the population is christian and z remaining half Muslim. So If i take his line of reasoning at face value, he should not be allowed to be outside this tradtional practice because to be pagan is un Eritrean as it is practised only by less than 2% Eritrean people. I am giving this reasoning in response to his arguement that Arabic is foreign langauge because it is spoken by Rashida people who are less than 2% of Eritrean population.
Answer: Religion is a private phenomenon that should be practiced in privacy. I cannot impose my belief on society and I have the right to worship anything I want although Buddhism is not paganism at all. No Christian or Moslem community has the right to take away my individual right to follow any type of spirituality unless I insist in replacing the Eritrean religions with mine. The nation is, however, common to all of us that none of us should dominate its authentic character through what we believe. Imposing Arabic on the society affects us all as people and therefore we should preserve our authenticity together by respecting our original languages only. I respect Arabic as one of our languages through the Rashida connection and can even entertain it being a national language because of this factor but no one is justified to glorify Arabic over our languages because of the Koran. It has never been done elsewhere and we should not do it. Once you allow religion to dictate the national language of Eritrea, you should as well allow the Christians to fight for Geez and me to fight for one of the far eastern languages in getting the same attention in the country because Buddhism was written with those languages. Once again, it is a matter of consistency. This issue has a lot of negative consequences in our society and we should just go with our languages instead. A Christian, a Pagan or a Buddhist Eritrean should not be forced to adopt Arabic for national language over his/her native language because of the Koran. You cannot do this without forcing the society to adopt other languages based on the same rationality: without allowing the society to adopt Hebrew and Geez because of the BIBLE and the DAWIT and Chinese or Japanese in my case because of the Buddhist linguistic format. Exclusively Justifying Arabic because of the Koran and rejecting the rest cannot take place without religious dictatorship that must be resisted without a second thought.
Let your Islam, Christianity, paganism and my Buddhism stay at home and Arabic, Hebrew or Geez and Chinese or Japanese practiced in our privacies. You can individually choose a language for yourself but you cannot impose it on a society that already has its own indigenous languages because your Holy Book’s linguistic format specially if it is foreign to the society. Why would we want to create an unheard of situation in our country about this issue? The problem with Arabic in the country is because it does not stay in the believers’ homes but rather expands outward affecting all of us in general unfairly. I have no reason learning Arabic and using it as a national language because of our Moslems (even assuming all of them want this to happen which is not true). Do you see the problem with this? You can study and adopt Arabic for yourself but cannot impose it on me and other Eritreans that already have their own native languages to develop and respect.
Kemal Omer: “The ethno-centric kebessan Tigringa do not know and do not understand that there are other Eritreans who do not speak or understand Tigrigna. So they see the translations in the Eritrea conferences between Tigrigna and Arabic as an inconvenience and they wonder why can’t the non-Tigringa just speak Tigrigna like them. Meet any one of them here in the West and when you tell him you are an Eritrean, the first question is always and invariably, “Tigrigna tifelet?”. That is where our problem is. The most amazing part of the language “argument” in Eritrea is those who oppose Arabic are those whose rights have been recognized and up held, the ethno-centric kebessan Tigrigna. Makes you remember the other Ethno-centric group from across the border the Amharas of Ethiopia of yester years.”
Answer: In fact you remind me of the Amharas that imposed their languages on us ignoring our native languages. I can understand that some of our people do not speak Tigrigna but should they use Arabic instead of their languages? How about the Eritreans that cannot understand Arabic? We don’t need a foreign language associated with religion to solve this problem when we can learn one of our languages and get it over with. To be frank with you, alternating languages in meetings is destructive and I will tell you right now that I am about to boycott meetings that do their business in this ineffective and irrational way. I cannot accept this dictatorship without being convinced of its advantage in the Eritrean society. We can do it in English if we have a problem with Tigrigna and Tigre but I am not stupid to be dictated on this by some fanatics that have a problem with their identity and that impose something unheard of in our society.
bravo: “How can one say Arab is alein language? Eritrea has many tribes n one of them is Rashaida whose mother tanque is Arabic. So how is z writer and his admirers full themselves and others to believe Arab as alien language? The other amazing thing is he and his circles presride Amharic (which is purely foreign and former coloniser and opresser) above Arabic. This byitself shows how he is so biased against Arab as language possibly developed by religous hatred. “
bravo: “How can one say Arab is alein language? Eritrea has many tribes n one of them is Rashaida whose mother tanque is Arabic. So how is z writer and his admirers full themselves and others to believe Arab as alien language? The other amazing thing is he and his circles presride Amharic (which is purely foreign and former coloniser and opresser) above Arabic. This byitself shows how he is so biased against Arab as language possibly developed by religous hatred. “
Comment: The Rashaidas are Arabs that speak Arabic and I accept this as one of our languages but we have a majority of people that speak other languages such as the Tigre, a language that must be respected over Arabic from self-respect and democratic points of view. Arabic because of Rashaidas cannot emasculate Tigre, a language spoken by one of the majorities in the society. What is your problem with Tigre, Saho, Kunama, etc. and why do you want Arabic over them? The problem is that our confused elites are not trying to do this in respect of the Rashaidas at all! I rather see the colonial language Amharic empowered rather than alternating meetings in Tigrigna and Arabic. This is savage and embarrassing; that is all I can say
Paradiso: “Why are the the Somalis,Afars Iranians, Turkish, Khurdish, Amharas,Oromos, Pashtuns, Tigrayans, Urdus … all with significant Muslims among them very proud of their languages, but the elite Muslims of Eritrea so ashamed to burn their own languages and heritage? What is the source of this deep rooted inferiority complex in Eritrea predominantly seen among elite Muslims?”
Answer: I dedicate this dialogue to a very bright Eritrean called Berhe who taught me something important about this issue. There is a valid reason for our people contemplating identification outside their roots. It is because we Eritreans have the tendency to make them feel foreigners: we call them Agame, tegaru and whatever without knowing the consequence of this misplaced approach. We inculcate doubts on their identity by identifying them as Ethiopians instead of embracing them as Eritreans. Check out this forum and see what I am talking about. We are too filthy and reckless to create unity between us. Ideas are not entertained as ideas in this bizarre Eritrean experience but rather stigmatized with ethnicity and religion outside our inherent sociological circumference.
You see, “great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events and small minds discuss people”. To extend this relationship, minute minds personalize ideas and ridicule each other emotionally. The reason the dictator still has many followers, says Berhe, was because we hurt our unity through the tendency to identify our people as foreigners, severely hurting their Eritrean confidence. They get so insecure about their future to the point of remaining silent or supporting the regime. We chase them away when they don’t agree with our views and accept them when they do. Berhe thinks this was the fundamental problem to why many Eritreans look at the situation from distance or even contemplate of siding with the regime as an alternate choice. We insult, abuse and attack people that differ in ideas from us and we marginalize them to entertain another identity because of fear. The terms WEYANE and AGAME have been used to divide Eritreans more than anything else and yet we still use them to identify people with different ideas. We cannot do it unless we accept all Eritreans full heartedly and develop each other’s confidence through constructive engagement my dear Eritreans. You are destined to live together forever and this will not cut it for you. Please cool down and try to feel other views without bias if you may! Please stop calling each other divisive names that hurt your society and elongate the dictatorship. Unity is only achievable by listening to each other and accommodating our differences and we should do this for your people. Don’t hurt your cause by personalizing ideas and being abusive to each other; and good luck. Thank you Berhe for this articulation!
Hagherawi July 1, 2014
Gideon aka Mahari T. and other 5 nicknames
He is mostly known as Simon Kaleab. You can follow his comments in Asmarino.com
He is Eritrean from Asmara. He lives in UK.
He keeps calling Eritrean Muslims rats and Islam barbaric religion.
He is an extreme extremist. Please don’t take him seriously.
abdu July 1, 2014
Gideon…….meaning from dictionary it’s a name from Hebrew meaning to break or to destroy. So take it from there and do your math?
hmmm July 1, 2014
Hagerawi: Why are you posting real names of people on the discussion forum? is that some kind of secret message for your radical friends to take him out? do you understand if anything happen to the person you are identifying by name, you can be held responsible? what if you were wrong by the way? I also consider what most radical Muslims say in this forum as hate mongering and inciting violence against Christians. What do you think you are doing when you accuse the highlanders of Eritrea for committing crimes against lowlanders? you accused highlanders for land grabbing from low land area even though it is the PFDJ government that did it (BTW for your information land is owned by government in Eritrea similar to all part of the world including USA). You guys accused Tigrigha was imposed on muslim people (even thou majority of the muslim spoke tirigha or tigre as first language) you said the highlanders committed genocide against Muslims in the 60’s (Even though Eritrea was colonized at the time, By the way, other colonies suffered much worst than what Eritreans suffered under Ethiopian rule)
What do you call all those accusations? don’t you think that is will incite violence? when decent Eritreans like Wedi Vacaro are trying to unite all Eritreans, you radical Musims are pushing a radical Muslim agenda and trying to poison our communities. Shame on you.
Kemal Omer July 2, 2014
for the author of the article- though he seems to have some “weqar” (add the word to your vocabulary of sawra, shabia, feshilu, hujum, ta’leq, tumuh etc) the content of his article full of insults of Eritrea Muslims tell a different story. He and the few of his likes are telling us to just forget about Arabic and go along with higdef’s Tigrinization of Eritrea. The rest is just a BS.
Here is a story fitting to the situation. Once the elders of Tigray went to the late Ras Seum and demanded the Ras to open a modern school for their children. The good Ras Seum was puzzle and asked the elders, “what is the point of educating your children when Megnesha and Zewdie and going to school for you?” Mengesha was his son (later Ras Mengesha) and Zewdie was his grandson (Later Dejezmach Zewdie Gebreselassie).
Now the likes of the author are telling us Muslim, ” Why do you need Arabic when we made Tigirigna the official language for you.”. The talk about Tigre, Afar, Blen etc. is just BS and they know it. It is all about them and their language and the others can go to hell. We will see who will go to hell and if we will go alone !!
One last point “pleas have some respect” !!
Bini July 2, 2014
hmmm: Spot on, you nailed it on the head of Hagherawi or Arebawi extreme radical. Eritrea is indeed a dysfunctional and a failed state. But we need to have a thinking and problem solving approach in order to find a solution whereby the Islamo-fascists will not be able to sneak in during the current confusion. Compared to this real threat all the other contradictions are misunderstandings among the highland population group are minor and trivial indeed. Somalia and Yemen have demonstrated how terrorist groups take advantage of the absence of state authority to recruit members and plan and execute attacks. Groups such as aI-Qaeda could find a fertile breeding ground among the politically blinded and increasingly frustrated Muslim population of Eritrea. Remember, “Semay Yeblun Andi, Aslamay Yeblun Adi”. Also how very true your last line of statement of “the good thing is most of you are OLD FARTS and you will die out and buried with your hate in your ADOPTED LAND” indeed. May I also add what our forefathers would say ‘what is taken by Muslims by force should be retaken by force; as they are (Muslims) either at your throat or at your feet’.
Jaber July 2, 2014
Bini
What good comes out of wedi comarit and retarded . First of all u; Gideon & alike u who dosn’t have a any faith don’t represent none of the religion for that reason u can’t speak concerning to the religion . Second ; wdi shermuta like you who born enda Suwa dosen’t know deep roots of knowledge of Islam can’t speak about our belief and what we stand for ; Third; some one irresponsible wdi mebelet like u is contributing destruction; destabilizing to the country by making up things unheard of any thing like that among Eritrean Muslims & Christians which they’ve lived side by side for ages. So; you guys are a real problematic & threat to peace instead. Fourth we Muslims Adena is all over where Allah (God) created the land .anta wedi herkam you don’t own any of the land ; a land is belong to allah.
Finally; future democratic Eritrea doesn’t have a place for stupid and ignorant like u ; we will wait for u and see.
Bini July 2, 2014
Jaber
Dude kindey ajewjew tibil, is it the case of garbage in garbage out? You must be a talking camel or a talking pig! I could call you so many names like Wedi Whore or Wedi Kelbi but as I don’t know ‘your mother’ I will refrain myself from going down to your level. However, I would say you and all your likes are nothing but damaged goods and frustrated homosexuals, pimps, and pedophiles. Finally and in future, stop your childish Bla<< Bla<< Bla comment like parrots. If you are seriously sick then see a psychiatric as soon as possible and keep taking your medications.
Jaber July 3, 2014
Bini
Ata ezi geltam eyeredon eyou mesleni ;entay dika delika tegrigna kenekaluseka deka delika; you already went to the lowest of low u can’t go lower than that. What it really amazed me was when you said u don’t won’t to go to my level hahahaha….you are not even close kiddy; you already went to the bottom when you insult Muslim Eritreans rats ;dogs ;talibans; adeu tektsro how many names uneccessary names u called as for no reason none what so ever .for what ? what did have done ? so mine isn’t ajewjew ;i was just responding unjustifiable abuse of words towards to silen Eritreans .
rahwa July 3, 2014
this guy who is posting comments using the nick Bini is not Eritrean. check out all his comments not only here but also in other articles. watch out brothers and sisters there are intruders among us trying to incite hate and disunity. we need to alert Assenna about this and other incidents like this. INTRUDER ALERT!!
hmmm July 2, 2014
Kemal Omer: Tigrigha is the official language of Eritrea. It is a language spoken by majority of Eritrean including the Muslims in highland Eritrea. The second largely spoken language is Tigre. So the obvious choices were Tigrigha or Tigre? Arabic was only spoken by 1% of the Rashida population near Sudan. The Author highlighted this facts and you are mad because he spoke the truth? By the way, no one ever told you to forget Arabic, in fact PFDJ forced all Eritrean kids to learn Arabic in elementary schools, so get your facts straight before you run your mouth. And what is the point of mentioning things that was said during colonial era by colonial powers? isn’t that what we fought for for 30 years to win our independence? to create a democratic Eritrea where the rights of all citizen is respected? yes that ambition is now cut short by PFDJ gangs, that is why we have to fight again to restore our democratic rights. So stop diving us by sneaking in your radical ideologies and pour a cold water in our struggle. You are simply helping PFDJ to rule longer.
Kemal Omer July 2, 2014
hmmm , saying higdef forced Eritrean children to learn Arabic is a pile of BS and an out right lie. The choice of Arabic is our choice and has nothing to do with colonialism. Refusing to accept it as the second official language of Eritrea is part of the Tigrignization program of higdef and the ethno-centric tigrigna. Simply spoken it is the choice of Eritrean Muslims and there is nothing you can do about it. Yes we fought for democracy and the choice of an official language is part of that democracy.
Hagherawi July 2, 2014
1. – What do you think you are doing when you accuse the highlanders of Eritrea for committing crimes against lowlanders?
2. – you accused highlanders for land grabbing from low land area even though it is the PFDJ government that did it (BTW for your information land is owned by government in Eritrea similar to all part of the world including USA).
3. – you said the highlanders committed genocide against Muslims in the 60′s (Even though Eritrea was colonized at the time, By the way, other colonies suffered much worst than what Eritreans suffered under Ethiopian rule)
hmmm
1. Show me where it’s written here in this part of the forum the Lowlanders are accusing Highlanders of committing crimes against them. People are accusing the PFDJ. Unless you think Higlanders and PFDJ are one and the same, which is totally absurd, no one is accusing the people. It’s all in your mind. Don’t say something nobody said, just to discredit others.
2. The issue of land grabbing and settlements is something many Highlanders have openly condemned. So, once again you are trying to defend wrong government policy by making it an issue of Higlanders versus Lowlanders. The land belong to people. Settlements are wrong and in future will be removed, if need forcefully. If you want stay in Lowlands stay in a city. In Eritrea if you don’t have land then there must be a problem with your roots.
Wherever your are stay in you land. If you want move to a city you can have a flat anywhere in Eritrea. All those land grabbers with dubious identity, who are expanding settlements while the government is keeping it’s owners purposely away from their country, will not remain there for long. If they want live in Agordat or any other city, they are welcome, else they have to go to where they belong.
3. Who said “highlanders committed genocide against Muslims in the 60′s” ?
Show me were it’s written here. As usual you are saying something no body said, out of the blue.
Did’t the Lowlanders and all non-Tigrignas took the Commandos as their comrades in arms once they abandoned the enemy camp, while many of Tegadelti had lost family members in villages burned by them ?. Did’t all those Colonels, General etc. who were giving orders to kill and burn Eritrean Muslims in their villages were welcome in ELF and nobody asked them questions about the crimes the had committed against innocent civilians ?
In Eritrea the only criminals are people like you who want PFDJ to be representative of Highlanders and use it against Lowlanders to grab their land and reduce them to second class citizens in their land. Thanks God, your strategy to divide Eritreans along sectarian lines will surely fail, and PFDJ will be remembered as the worst enemy Eritrea has even seen in it’s entire history.
hmmm July 2, 2014
Hagerwai, in case you are suffer from memory loss, here is a clip when you said you want us to change our language to Arabic because children of Eritrean immigrants in Sudan can’t speak tigrigha. What a joke.. how about children who grew up in Germany? don’t they deserve Dutch? how about your other comment about the new boy on the block, was that a threat? when you mentioned the lowlander league? do u plan to turn the league in to a terrorist cell? Finally you raised the issue of Afar, so you support the Afar movement to rejoin Ethiopia?
Here is what you wrote..
“Since 1967, there are more than half a million Eritrean refugees living in Sudan who could not return back and live peacefully in their land, first because of Ethiopia and now Higdef. Due to that, there are several generations of them who don’t even speak Tigre, or Saho and Bilen .. etc. much the same way your kids born in US would not speak Tigrigna.
So, you may want to impose Tigre on Lowlanders because you hate to hear people speaking Arabic, but soon you will realize that the whims of some individuals cannot change the reality.
– What about non-Tigre speakers like Saho, Bilen, Afar ..etc. ?, Do you want them to speak Tigree or you want them to be assimilated in Tigrigna as Higdef has been trying ? It stands to reason that limiting their choices between
been assimilated into Tigrigna or Tigre, both languages will be rejected. Some Afar groups have already indicated that
as long as the government continue imposing Tigrigna while denying Afars their basic rights in their land, they won’t allow it to be used in Dancalia in future. – Eritrea has changed a lot. Decentralization is one of the most important political requirements to keep it together. How this is going to be done is not yet clear, but surely, it’s going to happen, else much worst issues will follow. Now, unless you stop insulting people and try to create an atmosphere that promotes dialogue and mutual understanding,
=the gap will grow wide. You may have noticed that there is a new boy on the block, it’s called “Lowlanders League”, that gives you a hint what is going to happen. Unless you stop paternalism, you are going to be in trouble, not because Muslims will fight you, as some of you want scare people, that is not going to happen, but simply because, if the Afars and Lowlanders go their way (nobody can stop that), then it’s your turn to end up being
a Tigreyan enclave.I know genuine Eritreans hate that, I pray to God not to see that in my life, but it’s a likely scenario if irresponsible elements drive peaceful communities apart,
to impose their agenda of Tigrigna-centered Eritrea on the rest of the people.”
Noor Said
“his stupid eritrean christian will never go along Muslim people so we should decide to have our own separate Islamic state to distance from their evil way of life.Special the orthodox christian start from the most racist Amanuel assens
com can not live side by side with this people at all.”
Bravo wrote this
“Relax mr Fitsum, all muslim Eritreans happily accept Arabic to be Eritrean oficial language
above their native language. For your information, official language is choosen based on its wide acceptance and understundining not on the basis of the size of a certain ethnic group.
You can refer the situation of most African countries in this matter. Kenia, burundi, Nigeria, Angola, Mozambique….etc… use foreign languages as gheir official ones. Similarly,
Amharic is the Ethiopian official language while Oromo are z largest ethnic gruop in z country. ”
Ibrahim wrote
“Eritrean Moslems have chosen Arabic language and you no right to negate it if you really believe in democracy. You don’t know the history of the Eritrean Moslems; Eritrea is composed of two cultures: Axumite Christian Culture and Islamic Arabic Culture. A person who seeks coexistence in Eritrea should cognize this reality or he is not qualified for this end. I hope you my message reached to you and those you are cramming with distorted ideas.
Dhab July 2, 2014
this issue is getting too much attention. i noticed so many new commentators especially with Muslim names out and commenting about this issue. generally though our Muslim brothers and sisters keep to themselves. they create their own separate communities in Diaspora and they are reluctant to attend activities organized by fellow Eritreans claiming they have their communities. and suddenly when an issue is raised that has to do with ali abdu, or the Arabic language they want to be heard. some of them react aggressively. they seem to have a problem with dialogue. the problem is since they have been distancing themselves (or alienating themselves by choice) from their fellow countrymen they think that other Eritreans see them in a negative light. that’s why they are quick to respond in a negative way, quick to jump to conclusions and make threatening remarks. if you want to be heard the best way would be to get involved with your Eritrean communities and start working for understanding and unity not discord. and stop accusing the Tigrigna ethinic group. it’s not its fault that the majority of Eritreans speak that language nor is it its fault that iseyas is from that ethnic group. be fair. stop being biased and think as Eritreans. and Gideon i don’t know what you intend to do but you are a fanatic. fanaticism is dangerous whether it is Islamic or Christian. all of you grow up and respond in a responsible manner. use Assenna Forum responsibly and wisely. and leave Amanuel Eyasu (Assenna) or Fetsum Abraham alone. the first is giving us a platform to express ourselves and the later is trying to make us think and grow up. the first is also doing that but now i am talking about this issue.
Bini July 2, 2014
Dehab: indeed, this issue is getting too much attention as well as getting out of control/order dear sister. They are all behaving like spoiled children with no ending to the sad and pathetic issue. The Muslim lowlanders are showing their true colour of hate and anger towards highland Christians. A wise man once said “in the end we will not remember the words of our enemy, but the silence of our friends that is the majority chicken cowards so called deki hager. No one with the right frame of mind would accuse the poor highlanders of benefiting from higdef/PFDJ’s regime at all! Thanks to my ancestors, I still speak my language, so do many Eritreans speak their own Saho, Tigre, Afar — and many are able to keep their identity & heritage up to now. Unfortunately, we now have some opportunists and fanatics advocating for an alien Arabic language and culture. Well, well, Let’s first cross the long bridge of getting rid of Issayas Afewerki and his gangs and THEN the people of Eritrea WILL decide on what or which language to have as an official or working language in Eritrea. Now, lets concentrate on the roads ahead rather than finger pointing at each other.
Hereheray July 2, 2014
Dahab
Thanks for wide open eyes to be able to observe for those especially with the new Moslim names who reacted aggressively wawwww.. thanks for not looking for the starters to other side who are insulting Moslims for no apparent reason non what so ever; thanks sis,again you r wonderful shekorina.
Ummmmm.. you said they have to join to dankera in order to prove themselves to be an Eritreans with who; coming sister you have to complet the sentence hahahahahahahah……..you got to be funny; any way what ever you said regardless what sister we love you; we can only ask you to be fair.
Paradiso July 2, 2014
Hard to believe that people who see themselves as Arab Abeeds or slaves would create anything worthy by burning their own languages to be better Arab slaves.