Dialog with Yosief Ghebrehiwet on his “The Eritrean Oblomov: Loving Asmara the Superfluous Way” 03/24/2014
Fetsum: Author of From Feminist to Rapist and The Curse of Being and Living It. You can find the books at Amazon Books. Announcement: I am going to do my one man band musical show on May 2 in DC and expose my original
Fetsum: Author of From Feminist to Rapist and The Curse of Being and Living It. You can find the books at Amazon Books.
Announcement: I am going to do my one man band musical show on May 2 in DC and expose my original music and you are all invited to attend it spiritually if not physically. My special guests happen to be Yemane Barya, Usman Abdulrahim, Tewelde Redda and Teddy Afro. I believe art has to reflect human condition in a given society and these true artists in my opinion have been serving the Eritrean cause for independence and its current quest for freedom and democracy. As for Teddy Afro, I respect his artistic contribution in building peace between Moslems and Christians, and the Ethiopians and the Eritreans.
Narrative: Trying to spot the best Eritrean minds and collecting them to act for practical change in the country with a well defined strategy does not allow you bypassing Yosief Gebrehiwet who has relentlessly been assisting this resistance way before we started speaking out openly. Today, I feel comfortable discussing his latest article at Asmarino and hopefully we will start working together in the process. I will challenge Yosief Gebrehiwet on something special at the end of our exchange of opinions on this article only if he calls me. Enjoy the show!
Yosief: “Given the 50 years of hell that they have gone through, … one that renders [the Gedhli generation] superfluous to the society, is their adamant refusal to adapt to the emerging reality. So what seems to be activity under superfluous description remains to be total inactivity under relevant description. That is, they were willing to go through hell in order to stay “relevant” through irrelevant attributes only.”
Comment: Yosief’s mind is sometimes hard to figure out because it makes you think deeper than the norm eventually landing you in whatever way you may understand the real point. It is from this angle that I am taking a shot at his intellectual radiation. I have a little problem with said activity under said superfluous description because the first imposed Ethiopian contact with the Eritreans after the Italian colonialism that caused the struggle (activity in this context) was not based on superfluous imagination but rather on rationally describable facts so to say, for the Eritreans had to react to the Ethiopian interference one way or another. I believe there was a rational reason for the Eritrean struggle despite the disgusting result while I agree that today’s Eritrean reality with said Gedhli generation has been said inactivity under relevant description. Inactivity in this context being the regime’s uncultured mentality of sticking to absolute dictatorship and ignorance while the relevant descriptions of today’s interconnected universe remain to be education, democracy, freedom, development and civilized governance under the rule of law. I could have misunderstood your articulation and please reverse me if you think so.
Yosief: “Wings on a rabbit, flapping or not, wouldn’t make it soar high up in the sky; to the contrary, it would mercilessly pin it down to the ground that it wouldn’t even be able to move, let alone run. Education has provided the African elite with such superfluous wings; yet, whenever the occasion arises, they love to show them off by flapping them while rendered immobile by the sheer weight of those epiphenomenal wings. And when a nation is taken under their wings, a whole population finds itself pinned down to the ground – as Eritrea finds itself now.”
Comment: A scholar can achieve degrees after degrees but one remains useless to society and a parasite as well if the knowledge is only advertised on the living room walls through well framed certificates without positively affecting the society in relevance. Capsulating knowledge within the self is a terrible thing to do. Interesting is that useless intellectualism is a heavier burden to society than anything else can ever be because a given society, the universe at large pays dearly to educate an individual to PhD level of the academic stratum (probably more than 20 years in time and millions of dollars in expenditures). One can then imagine the waste and the parasitic relationship between a quietist scholar and the society/societies that molded one to be scholarized. The universal investment on a quietist intellectual produces zero output or sheer uselessness in this situation.
To make it worse, opportunist scholars in a given society always serve the oppressors becoming part of the collective social problem. The parasitic relationship intensifies in this situation from uselessness to dangerousness because opportunism as such does not stop at uselessness point of the relationship but also explodes against the society by serving the enemy at the brain level of its system. An opportunist scholar should then be the heaviest burden of society for simultaneously attacking it with the lethal curse of uselessness and dangerousness.
Yosief: “In a rather haunting déjà vou scenario, the going away and the coming back of the ghedli generation had the same structural similarity in their superfluity that makes us question the relevance of the time in between. When they went to Sahel, they went armed with their urban elite experiences (that “modern” attribute they thought essentially distinguishes them from the Other) but found no use for it in the new environment; instead, they had to do everything through sheer brutality to stay relevant. In the process, whatever “modern values” they had cherished before gave way to new values acquired at mieda. That is, temekro muhur had lethally metamorphosed into temekro mieda, with superfluity as the enduring common characteristic that ties them both in their deep family resemblance. Thus, when they reentered Asmara in triumph, they came back armed with the most superfluous attribute that would find no currency at all in modern day Eritrea: temekro mieda. And here is the crux of the matter: both temekros could be sustained only by rendering the ghebar invisible – a precondition for the brutalities to follow.”
Comment: Brilliant and interesting summary: It just seems like the Eritrean people have been sandwiched between the two seemingly inappropriate applications to their concrete realities: temekro muhur during the struggle andtemekro mieda after independence. The two temekuros like you put it very well appear similar in contradictive relationship with the two Eritrean realities in their respective eras; the ultimate result on the society being exactly the same in quality: misfit and destructive! The other constant element in your analysis of this topic was that the two misplaced theories had to be implemented by violence. Violence is the only means of implementing a misfit ideology in society as you clearly taught it in your magnificent work, meaning that the Eritrean people twice suffered the liberators’ violence as the consequence of said gedli generation’stheoretical and practical flip-flopping in inverse relationship to their realities in the respective eras on discussion.
Yosief: “As in the case of the Russian gentry, the “liberators” adamantly refused to adapt to the new reality because it would require giving up their privileged status. Instead, not only had they been trying to do everything through temekro mieda, they went as far as attempting to recreate it nationally in the form of national service. The sheer incompatibility of temekro mieda to modern day Eritrea, one that has brought the nation nothing but one monumental disaster after another, is a result of this strange belief that this epiphenomenal experience could accomplish miracles on its own. “
Comment: The concept of liberation was all together misplaced for strictly territorial independence in view of the leader/s of the struggle while misunderstood for having been for freedom and democracy in view of the people. Liberation starts right at the home base within the liberator’s inner individuality. How can a confined individual liberate others? A person that is not mentality free cannot understand the meaning of freedom nor can one cause the freedom of others. In so saying, individualism is the most obvious symptom of a confined mind and Mr. Afwerki failed to secure freedom for Eritreans because he is a chronic sufferer of the syndrome: too precarious a man to himself to hardly help other human conditions in his environment.
I believe your detailed work on the golden age of Asmara, Asmara and the Gedhli generation, and Interrupting Asmara’s growth, were outstanding in quality. I was surprised how detailed you infiltrated into the elements that constitute your highly educational material. You have a special capacity of delivering so much information in exceptionally compressed volume, extraordinary talent in creative-description of subject matters needless to say that you have defined a reference mark for philosophical excellence, in my opinion. I appreciate and thank you for sharing your mind with us Eritreans in such a fearless and intellectual fashion. I was even more fascinated by your analysis inPurifying Asmara based on the relationship between the Khmer Rouge and the Shabias in villagizing the city by sucking out the elite class to SAWA for ultimate refugee life and between North Korea and the Shaebias in changing its demographic face making it the home of predominantly women and PFDJ members. Your input was an excellent effort that clarifies a lot of complex issues about our predicament. Although the entire content of your article was important I found the following worth repeating here for people to briefly understand what has been going on. People who read the article can bypass this portion.
Yosief: “Purifying Asmara: No government has done a better job of the displacement policy than the Khmer Rouge of Cambodia. The total empting of the capital city – with more than two million inhabitants – within a day or so after their arrival was mainly motivated by the fierce hatred and resentment the Khmer Rouge guerrillas had developed for ghebar while they were “struggling against the oppressor” in the bush.
The Eritrean situation has never gotten as bad as the Khmer Rouge’s mainly because of the country’s porous borders19, but the anti-intellectual drive, and the venomous spite against ghebar that goes with it, that sent the Khmer guerrillas on a rampage to empty entire towns and cities of their inhabitants is the very same drive that made Shaebia empty the cities and towns of their youth. The entire youth population has been systematically emptied from the cities and towns and cordoned off in “mieda” under the name of national service; and, in due time, defending the nation and developing a “self-reliant” economy are meant to turn these internal exiles into the next generation of “Shaebia men” – all trademarks of the Khmer Rouge.
The question of purity doesn’t only deal with those targeted to be evicted, but also with those selected to remain in the city. Looking into this purification process, it would be revealing to check the inhabitants of North Korea’s capital city, Pyongyang, for that is what Asmara is increasingly looking like. Two of the demographic groups that mainly make up the population of Pyongyang are party members and women. The similarities with Asmara are rather striking.
Similarly, let’s ask: where are the adult men of Asmara to be found? They are either in the national service serving the army or outside the country, in refugee camps and beyond. “
Comment: Wow!
Yosief: “The coloinial mind of the urban elite: Sometimes I think that Asmara has done more psychological damage than good to the Eritrean elite, given that all their sense of betterment came from owning that city and all their revolutionary zeal from wanting to be the sole owners of that city. If so, that by itself would have been enough to trace the colonial mind of the ghedli generation.”
Comment: Very interesting thought entertainment! It seems to me that Asmara was taken by many Eritreans as a symbol of civilization compared to other societies and specially the Ethiopians. Before we knew it, something fallacious was installed into our psych in relation to beautiful Asmara as if we made it ourselves. As time went on, we grew believing that we constructed a better city than the rest in Ethiopia and framed a comparative psychological reference to all others based on this imaginary theory by which we cased in point as the most civilized people in the region and the continent at large. That is where we faced the contradiction between our assumption of the self (society) and reality.”
I also think we used Asmara as psychological defense mechanism against Addis Ababa which was growing at a faster rate. The imaginary Eritrean superiority to the Ethiopians was unconsciously radiating through extreme urge of eternally keeping Asmara better than Addis. The psychic connotation behind the urge for Eritreans to signify their importance vis a vis the Ethiopians through Asmara’s betterment than Addis was an interesting reality to confront because I was one of them. Although most of our people were modest enough to never have been affected by this complex psycho-phenomenon, I think it was very visible on those that lived highly exaggerating the essence of Asmarino and undermining the rest based on. The concept of Asmarino at a point in the experience appears having had the tendency to discriminate or to at least undermine the entire Eritrean population for backwardness (This may be common in many societies).
What we proved after independence was that we could not even keep the resources we inherited from colonialism forget about developing them ahead. We actually deteriorated everything inherited in Eritrea from education and economy to technology at home court: One inherited university gone and one inherited beach (Gorgussom) barely surviving. In the contrast, what the educated member of the society in Diaspora proved was even more troublesome to me. It was actively participating with remarkable conformist determination to the fronts during the struggle for independence but so inactive and terrified it has been in this resistance for freedom and democracy.
Our performance after independence proved that Asmara as a city and the rest of Italian made Eritrea do not represent the Eritrean reality in terms of capacity and maintenance. We still have to show that we were capable of leading a healthy nation as the fruit of our independence through our own home based development instead of through the colonial legacy in Eritrea. Sadly, we did not get the chance to challenge this predicament because of the unexpected absolute dictatorship and we are not working hard to reverse the situation Out scholars with all their capacities could not collectively take a project and put a transitional formula on paper, something the least they could, to the disgrace of the Eritrean society. I hope they will do it from now on but the motion is still very slow compared to the time sensitive Eritrean situation.
Yosief: “All that I have been trying do in this posting is to remind readers that life in both urban and rural Eritrea was normal before it was interrupted by ghedli, thereby attempting to debunk the great lie that the ghedli romantics have been feeding the masses: that the case of Eritrea is that of colonial oppression. “
Comment: Colonialism as something related to the Eritrean experience had been an over exhausted subject matter by both Eritrean and Ethiopian elites since the start of the Eritrean struggle for independence. This subject cannot be precisely figured out. Any intruder is a colonizer to me, immaterial what others may call the situation. It is not a direct phenomenon that can be mathematically answered or proven. I think colonialism is effectuated mainly due to capacity to finance it and to hold it by force which both the Italians and the Ethiopians had in relation to Eritrea irrespective of their difference in race, technology and treatment of the people under control.
The concept is open for philosophical entertainment by any thinker. Back in the days, the Ethiopian students’ movement lived trying to categorize whether the Eritrean question was colonial or national. To me it was both, though of course the topic is beyond this discussion which I did in detail in my book (the curse of being and living it). The fact remains that it does not matter anymore 23 years after the Eritrean independence was actualized and in front of its universally accepted sovereignty. The unique African experience, the Southern Sudanese independence needless to say totally over justifies the Eritrean independence that was caused by European colonialism at the root point of the matter. The Southern Sudan independence is to date the only exceptional happenstance in Africa: evolution of a society to nation hood through the foundation of a NATIONAL question. This was so because the former Sudan was colonized by the British as a whole piece and thus the southern part succeeded from the Sudan without the conventionally understood colonial justification (associated with the Arabic Sudanese) merely on the basics of NATIONAL QUESTION. This is unprecedented in Africa if I am correct.
Yosief: “Paradoxically, it is the ghedli generation that has been displaying all the characteristics of colonists – that is, starting from the very Cause itself, not as caused by colonial oppression but by colonial inspiration. If there is anything that could define colonialism as it occurred in Africa and elsewhere, it is the fact that it was an unparalleled interruption in the way of life of the colonized people. “
Comment: To me, conditioning the Eritrean political system under the Ethiopian monarchy by itself signified Ethiopia’s daily interference in the Eritrean life of the time. We were forced to learn Amharic as a national language and Ethiopianized in very controversial circumstances. We were made to tax to the Ethiopian central government and our ports utilized by the Ethiopian navy and shipping lines needless to say that the people suffered a lot as the consequence of the struggle which you tried to see in isolation from its root cause, Emperor Hailesselassie’s interference in the Eritrean socio-political life. The struggle would never have taken place at least in its actual form and focal point without the Ethiopian interference in the Eritrean society’s private business. We may never have experienced Afwerki’s dictatorship without the root cause of the struggle which was Ethiopia’s imposing contact with our society. The truth remains, however, that we suffered more intensely under this regime as you clearly put it with convincing authority. The Gedli generation is a colonizer in view of the current Eritrean situation. Colonialism cannot do worse damage in any society than what the Shabias did to our society.
I believe the Eritrean question having been colonial or national is outdated as a result of Eritrea’s nationhood. The argument has died out without concrete resolution 50 years after the confrontation between the two camps (national or colonial) as a consequence of the Eritrean independence which is legally actualized forever. I don’t see any advantage in discussing these issues at this stage in our experience where the independence has completely closed the topic leaving it for historians and social scientists to write books on ahead and the Ethiopians accepted our sovereignty without any visible complication.
“In philosophy’s realm of the spirit there is no objective certainty and no confirmation. Communication is the path to truth”, said Jaspers; whatever the truth may be relative to the particular conditions that cause its existence. The truth in this situation being whether the Eritrean question was colonial or national.
The question of right and wrong or that of true or false is so elusive, it can force one into conscious or unconscious breaching of other people’s perceptional territories. At the bottom line, however, there is no such thing as objective truth or reality in the socio-philosophical spectrum of life for no human nature can measure a concept or an outlook in pieces: it can only deal with it through elucidations or subjective truth. The moment we freely exhaust all possible constants and variables of something without bias to our individual opinions we have relatively reached the best limits of absolute truth only in relative scale in that regard. The fact remains that subjectivity cannot always represent objectivity nor can it be fully expressed by a person’s individual feelings and preconditions for the universe does not revolve around an individual’s concept of reality. Objective reality is achievable by arresting individual interest in favor of universally valid standards. No subjective outlook focused on making objective impact can succeed without appreciating the notion that human beings react to different situations differently by natural fabric. Arguing about whether something is true or not does not change the real nature of a subject matter in examination for nothing satisfies everybody else equally. “People may keep looking for the right answer, but there is no right answer. Everything is relative rather than absolute. That is the answer”, says LAMA SURYA DAS in Awakening the Buddha within.
What I think is that philosophy as open ended phenomenon has never had and can never have a precise answer. Human beings have never completely agreed on a concept that cannot be empirically proven, they only compromised. No one can prove whether the Eritrean question was colonial or national with absolute authority for the terms themselves cannot define the associated reality in complete format. But every commonsense can agree on a reality that materially projects itself in concrete existentialism. We cannot deny the existence of a rock displayed in front of our eyes nor can we deny that Afwerki was the president of Eritrea. By the same token, no one can deny the sovergnity of Eritrea immaterial whether its question was colonial or national. What matters most is what we need right now to have a better society and how!
History must locally move forward positively impacting a society for further universal impact which our immediate priority in our case is democratizing the country and then moving on forward resiliently confronting whatever may come in the way in relation to the continental development as a family with all other African societies (Pan Africanism, Regional Integration, etc.). Right now, however, everything including our history is secondary to our freedom. We need to concentrate on our immediate priority TRANSITIONAL GOVERNMENT TO DEMOCRACY full-fledged ahead because this challenge is our concrete reality leaving our account overall for social scientists to write books on for future generations.
In conclusion, the momentous universal truth is that there is a dire need to clean the so said Gedhli temokro poison replacing it with a normal society that conforms to the sociopolitical and technological realities of the universe through the power of intellectual intervention. There is an independent nation called Eritrea suffering from the worst form of absolute dictatorship that needs the immediate attention of its intellectuals to transit it to democracy irrespective of what the cause of its struggle for independence had been. There is a nation called Eritrea that must independently move on forward from here on immaterial what happened in the past with external forces and regardless of how it achieved independence.
Our concrete reality is that there is a big role brother Yosief Gebrehiwet can play if he pays attention to our suggestion: Designing Eritrea’s transitional formula to democracy based on the Accra Peace Accord that transited Liberia into democracy. I am asking you with maximum humility to join me in the development of the transitional formula with other highly educated Eritreans currently contemplating on. I am appealing for your phone call as soon as possible so that I can share what I am trying to do with my fellow compatriots and put your extra ordinary intelligence into effect to energize it into the next level of resistance. Please call me at 202-702-3977after you first text me so that I can respond immediately.
Tes April 16, 2014
Dear Fetsum,
What Eritrea lack is courageous people like you and YG. You both are in the same wavelength who are bold enough to say thing as it appear without compromising to please the wrong majority. YG analysis of the past is nothing wrong and by no means make him peculiar. As intellectual, he has every right to analysis the past in order to learn from it and not to repeat the same mistake again and again. Having said that Eritrea current dire situation does not allow much time and energy to be wasted. YG is a finest intellectual and he is our asset we should utilize properly and it is wise of you Fetsum to invite him to join hand with just and democracy seekers.
The main enemy of Eritrea is lack of knowledgeable people and good leaders with high ethical background. That is why we never accommodate any thought differ from ours and that is the reason we are in the cycle of miserly. YG explorer the unreached territories for the last 50 odd years and for many it is painful truth to handle. For the older generation who by default invested to much to Gedly it become too painful to show their weakness wide open to the younger generation. They were told they are better than all African race and would be better off with out the back-warded Ethiopians and they believed and followed. But the result is what we are haven now worse than what Eritrea was. Reflecting that and YG telling them the truth it really hurts them to the core and the go as far as saying he is advocate of Andnet. He isn’t an Eritrean and so on and forth. They knew that Eritrea is a nation and there is no turning back even if we all want it. I am sure the Ethiopian will say tough bad lack. For me the Ethiopians are moved on but we are stack and we are in delusion losing sight of our dream.
Fetsum! I salute you for inviting YG who I believe a great help to move our quest for democracy forward.
God bless
Mizra Shinfa April 16, 2014
Yosief is a pompous individual, who does not even edit his articles before posting them. He can’t even envisage other beaches in Eritrea, other than Gurgusum. He is a close-minded person who impossibly aspires to change the past and ridicules the history of Eritrea. He seeks attention by provoking and is a poor soul, who questions the facts that Eritreans were suffering under Ethiopian rule. He doesn’t stop there; he even challenges the necessity for Eritreans to stand against oppression and belittles their struggle for freedom.
Asmerom April 16, 2014
It sound like you are looking into a mirror and describing the reflection you have seen. Or, you have not read YS articles at all.
Tezareb April 16, 2014
Dear Asmerom,
I liked your answer so much I laughed hard. It is true, Mizra Shinfa is looking into his own mirror image while writing.
SARA April 17, 2014
MIZRA SHINFA, BASED READING YOU WRITING, ITS SEEMS YOU ARE THE NARROW MIND. GO TO SCHOOL, OKAY!
Bissirat April 16, 2014
Dear Fitsum,
I am sending my comment just to say you are doing great! I wish all the best and I assure you I will do my best to replace, Gedhli temokro with a normal society.
thanks!
Hazhaz April 16, 2014
Dear Fitsum writes,
” Right now, however, everything including our history is secondary to our freedom. We need to concentrate on our immediate priority TRANSITIONAL GOVERNMENT TO DEMOCRACY full-fledged ahead because this challenge is our concrete reality leaving our account overall for social scientists to write books on for future generations.”
I think the issue of democracy and the Eritrean opposition was long addressed by YG in: The Eritrean Opposition: The Fallacies of Its Democracy Project
Here is the link in asmarino website:
http://www.asmarino.com/articles/985-eritrean-opposition-the-fallacies-of-its-democracy-project
fetsum abrahamt April 17, 2014
Thanks Hazhaz. I am reading it right now and hopefully will exchange ideas about it in the future.
Truly Truly i say to you April 16, 2014
I am ameased by silence of Dawit Mekonnen´s hearing this anti Eritrean agenda discussion . Please for God sake, why Is Fitsum by inviting Yoseif likes to mess this wonderful Eritrean website by Ethiopian agenda. Everyone knows Asmarino com as hijacked by Ethiopians, tanks for unionist YG anti Eritrean independence struggle propaganda. I really ameased when some of you presenting Yoseif as if like a deep thinker intellectuals scientist. Most Chauvinist Woyanes and Amharas to what their heartbeat wishing because Yoseif writing and talking, for them could be he intellectual, but not for single real Eritreans. Wey Gud! I think Fitsum you dispising Assenna and Eritreans, if you have interest to discuss with YG make it at Asmarino their such stupid discussion is at most wellcome but not in this Eritrean website. Do not you know about 97% Asmarino visitors as are Ethiopians? Every pro Ethiopian opinion, which glorifying the Ethiopian regime and agenda at most trusted and welcome is; while Eritrean sentiment comments despised and rejected? Like you hijacked all Eritrean websites if your intention is also to hijack Assenna, i assure you as do not succeed , because brother Amanuel Iyasu is so principal, so smart person is as much as you thinking. He is real Erztrawi patriot with real Eritrean sentiment you can not easily manipulate him like others. Finally to everyone of you this point should to be clear. Eritrean case is not personal by manipulated websites or individuals that you can change the nation reality and people interest. By the way i respect Fitsum´s personal life and his own life style, I wish every success for that, but i do not late my nation and people destiny to be personalized and by some actors to be manipulated and judged.
Hagherawi April 17, 2014
“Most Chauvinist Woyanes and Amharas to what their heartbeat wishing because Yoseif writing and talking, for them could be he intellectual, but not for single real Eritreans”
Truly Truly
Ethiopianists come in many colors, and some as this notorious anti-Eritrea rootless, make a lot of noise about Eritrean identity while they themselves are suffering from lack of it. Ethiopianists as YG, Girmay Yebio and few little men here like the guy who has at least 15 nicknames (Borkre, Paradiso, Tezareb …etc) want de-legitimize Ghedli by any means, as if Ethiopia and it’s occupation Army, when they were burning villages with people in it, were actually distributing red roses.
Whether they like it or not Eritrea is a country like any other one in the Horn. When it comes about colonial history, the region has gone through similar colonial experiences, and no country can claim that it’s a Nation State, as those in Europe. One way or the other they are all products of European colonial history.
That is why :
– Ethiopia is still suffering from internal conflicts (and the issue is multiple identities). Neither the Somalis nor the Oromo are happy about Habesha centered Ethiopia. Few decades down the road Ethiopia will not look the same.
– Sudan is another example of a failed State. The Northerners, like Amhara ruled the country from the center with iron fist and now the country is going to pieces. What is bleeding Sudan is lack of shared identity.
– Despite its people having potential factors needed to have a common national identity , Somalia has become a classical example of a failed State because of different colonial experiences (Italian/British).
– Djibouti is a country where the Issa Somalis rule with the support of Ethiopia and France while the Afar are struggling to get equal share of power and resources.
– Uganda is another country that has a long history of internal conflicts and it’s future is uncertain once the dictator leaves the stage.
There is no country in the region that doesn’t suffer from it’s colonial past.
When Ethipianists think Ethiopia is country with 3000 years of history [actually, cooked up fairy tales]
not only they show utter intellectual dishonesty, but they do it to justify expansionist ambitions of a megalomaniac State.
Tezareb April 17, 2014
al Hagherawi writes,
“Few decades down the road Ethiopia will not look the same.”
ኣየ በዓል ጋዕጋዕ፤ መዓኮር ዓረብ እንዳለሓስካስ ጸርፊ ናብ ኢትዮጵያ፧
መልኣከ ሞት ኣብ ድርኩኺት ገዛኻ ኣትዩ፣ ሎሚ ጽባሕ እትብል ዘለኻ።
ሕጂ ኸኣ ኢትዮጵያ ክትመውት ቀሪባ ኣላ ኽትብለና፧
ኣንታ እዚ ወደፎርቂ ካብዚ ኸማኻ ይሓይሽ መስለኒ፧
ሰብኣይ ደኣ ነዚ ከማኻ ቀደም ፈሊጥዎ፤ ብንዕቀት እኳ እዩ በዚ ጥርሙዝ ዊስኪ ፈገም ዘብሎ።
ደሓን ንፖለቲካ ኢትዮጵያ ባዕላቶም እቶም ኢትዮጵያውያን ይመልስዎ፤
ምኽንያቱ ከምዚ ኸማኻ ሳሕሳሕ ዓረብ ዝፈንፈኖ፣ ዝፈልጦ ጉዳይ ኣይኮነን።
Gideon April 17, 2014
Tezareb Anbessa,
al Hagherawi,al kalighe and al Wedi Hager is the same coward leklaki wedi halima.
What a double standard, as he keeps accusing others with so many nicknames! Do not
take him seriously as he is just sahab gimel and so irrelevant and little mosquito.
ahmed saleh April 18, 2014
Wait , what did you call him ? Wedi Halima !!!
You seem to have a hidden agenda to put a salt to the
forgotten injury . Eventhough many of those commands
at that time repented to join the struggle beside their
people you still stuck on that mentality of hatred to
Eritrea from different region and religion . All you
postings convinced me to call you MAHBER- ANDNET
because of your efforts to campaign not for Eritrea interest.
Genet-orginal April 18, 2014
Gideon
If you are an Eritrean, you are out of line. Your inflammatory statement is not helpful to our people. If you have personal issue with some people, be a man/woman and address it, without involving innocent people. Grow up!
If you are not Eritrean and you are here for destruction, don’t be silly. Eritreans are far more smarter than you. It is 2014, not the 1940s. Eritrean or not Eritrean, grow up!
Tekeste April 17, 2014
Hagerawi!This topic has nothing to do with Ethiopia Sudan or uganda.Before you jmup on the band wagen and comment make sure that you understand what is being talked about.If you do not have what it takes to understand ask for help.Why west your time strugling to make sence when you dont have a clue .
Truly Truly i say to you April 16, 2014
ወይ ጉድ! ” የኣይጥ ምስክሯ ድንቢጥ ” ይብሉ ኣምሃሩት ክምስሉ ከለው። ዮሴፍ በቲ ኢትዮጵያውያን ብዘቅርብሉ ዘለዉ ከንቱ ውዳሴን ምስክርነትን ሰኪሩ ብሃደ ኤርትራዊ ዝኸበረ መሲልዎ ንነፍሱ ከሙሑር ብምቁጻር ይጥብራ ተሎ ብጣእሚ ዘህዝን ምስኪን ፍጥረት እዩ። እቲ ነቲ ዝዛረቦ ቋንቋ ገሊኡ ብንእቀት ገሊኡ ዝበዘኽ ሕዝቢ ስለዘየስተባሃለሉ እዩ እንበር፣ ነዚ ኹሉ ደምን መስዋእትን ዝተኸፈለሉ ገድሊ ከምዘስተናእቅ ከምዘሎ ሕዝብና እንተዝርዳእ ነሩ፣ እመኑኒ ዮሴፍ ንሃራ ኤርትራ ንክረግጻ ንሃንቲ መዓልቲ ኣምበይ መፍቀደሉን ነሩ። ኣነ ብወገነይ ናይ ኤርትራ ናይ ነጻነት ገዲሊን ልኡላዊነት ሃገርናን ንዘስተናእቕን ንዘይኣምነሉን ሰብ ፈጺሙ ከበሬታ ስለዘይብለይ ብዝኾነ ናይ መላእኽቲ ቃል እንተተዛረበ ይትረፍ´ዶ ከሙሑር ክወስዶ ከምሰብ´ውን ስለዘይሃስቦ ፈጺመ ክሰምኦ ኣይደልይን እዬ። ምናልባሽ ንዘረብዑ ሃንሳብ ስለዝነኣቕኩዎ ብዙህ ንክሰምኦ ብዘይምኽኣለይ ብጌጋ ተረድኤዮ ተኾይነ ግን፣ ማለት ከምቲ ዝሃሰብኩዎ ደይኮነ፣ ዮሴፍ ነቲ ናይነጻነት ገድሊን ናይ ኤርትራ ልዑላዊነት ዝኣምነሉ እንተዳ ኮይኑ ግናስ ነቀፌቱኡን ጽልዑን ኣብ ልእሊ ኢስያስን መሰልቱን ነነጻነት ኤርትራ ብምጭዋዮም ተቆጢኡ ነቀፌትዑ ናብኦም ዝኣንቀደ እንተደኣ ኮይኑ፣ተኾይኑ ዝዛረብ ዘሎ ናይብሃቂ ኣብ እግሩ ወዲቔ እቅሬታ ዘይሃተሉ ምኽንያት ፈጺሙ የለን።። ግናስ Genet Original ብዛእባ ናይ ዮሴፍ ጽሁፍ ትሕዝቶ ካብ ሪኢቶኪ ብዙህ ኣፍልጦ ዘለኪ ስለትመስሊ እንታይ ምዃኑ ብሃጺሩ ከትብርህልና ተትኽእሊ ጽቡቕ ነሩ።
Tezareb April 16, 2014
ኣይተ ቱሩሊ፤
ኣየ በዓል መጕሃይቲ፣ ሓደ እግርኽን ኣብ ገደል ኣትዩ፣ ኡይ ኢልክን ረዳኢ ዘይብልክን ዘመን በጺሕክንሲ፣ ገና በታ ዘይትዕርፍ ናይ ትምክሕቲ መልሓስክን፣ ኣብ ጥራሕ ማዓኮርክን ንኢትይጵያ ትጸርፋ።
ንምዃኑ እኳ ሓደ ለባም መንእሰይ ኣብ ራድዮ ኣሰና ከም ዝበሎ፤
“ኢሳያስ ኣሜሪካ ይጸርፍ፤ ተቓወምቲ ትበሃላ መውደኽደኽቲ ድማ ኢትዮጵያ ትደግማ። ”
ካባኽን ደኣ እንታይ ቁምነገር ክርከብ። ገና ሱር ፖለቲካዊ ሕማም ኤርትራ ዘይተረዳኣኩም። ኣእዛንኩም ዓቢስኩም ኢኹም ትዛረቡ መስለኒ።
ዓቕምን ብቕዓትን እንተለካ፤ እስከ ንዮሴፍ ገብረሂወት ዓምዲ ጽሒፍካ ሞጉቶ።
MightyEmbasoyra April 17, 2014
Tezareb,
I am not really sure where your stand is.
1) YG is as human as you and you seem to reach into the level of worshiping
2) From what I have read of his few articles, he seems that he doesn’t believe in Eritrean independence.
3) Even if there were many mistakes and criminal acts during the struggle, this doesn’t make it the whole struggle is worthless. If he can’t understand that, I am not really sure if I can call him brilliant person
4) Tell me if he came out with any new ideas of his own – like invention or close to that
Taht’s should be enough for today.
Hagherawi April 17, 2014
“YG is as human as you and you seem to reach into the level of worshiping”
MightyEmbasoyra
Any one who knows Eritrea well, can easily see that YG’s articles lack substance.
The Arabian Nights are well written but that doesn’t make it history.
“Tezareb” a notorious rootless, and his likes enjoy reading it because YG belittles Eritrea.
Tezareb April 17, 2014
al Hagherawi writes,
““Tezareb” a notorious rootless ”
ሕጂ ከኣ ዓዲ ዘይብሎም ኢልካ ትጻረፍ ኣለኻ፧
ከምዚ ከማኻ ትማሊ ካብ ሰለኽለካ ሽረ፣ ናብ ዓዲ ኳላ ተሓንጊሩ ኣትዩ፤ ብኣውቶቡስ ንመንደፈራ ኣስመራ ከረን ከይዱ፤
ዕድመን ጥዕናን ንሓማሴን ብሌን ከይበለ፣ ሕጂ ኣብ ኣሜሪካ ተሓቢኡ ዓረብ ኢና ዝብል፣ ከምዚ ከማኻ እምበኣር እዩ ዓዲ ዘለዎ፧ ወትራስ ሓሳዊ።
ኣየ ንፋለጥ እሞ ንማለጥ፤ ድዮም ዝበሉ፧
Asmerom April 17, 2014
Tezareb,
PFDJ and its cheerleaders do not understand the language healthy debate.As the head of PFDJ would say “ab bahli hzbawi-gmbar kemzi yelen”
ahmed saleh April 18, 2014
Asmerom
Nobody represented Hizbawi
Ghenbar in here . But we vow to continue to finish the purpose they died for that is a real man word not to betray the promise.
Hazhaz April 17, 2014
In my view YG has already addressed the issues raised by Fitsum.
You can read Yosief Ghebrehiwet’s entire article: The Eritrean Opposition: The Fallacies of Its Democracy Project
http://www.asmarino.com/articles/985-eritrean-opposition-the-fallacies-of-its-democracy-project
Here is the excerpt from YG’s article:
(II) What Has Democracy Got to Do with It? [an abridged version] (written on 01/25/10)
Among the opposition’s doing, the most harmful thing to Eritrea has been having its current predicament identified as a political rather than existential crisis. Once misdiagnosed as a political crisis, all try to find a political solution that invariably bypasses urgent issues of survival that has little to do with politics. The reason why most Eritreans in the opposition put undue focus on the “democracy project” – creating political parties, pushing for “unity” among parties, flirting with government-in-exile, discussing on what type of democratic government is suitable to Eritrea, rallying around the constitution or amending it or condemning it, strengthening democratic institutions in Diaspora, instilling democratic culture among youth organizations, advocating for free media and other democratic rights, conducting conferences and symposiums promoting democracy, writing endless papers on the virtue of democracy, etc – for providing a solution to the current crisis of existence primarily comes from this flawed understanding.
Both the regime’s supporters and most of its detractors have this “patriotic” tendency to criminally bypass the people’s existential predicament in order to achieve some higher “national” goal; all said and done, of course, in the name of the masses. The supporters of the regime are infamously known for prioritizing land over people. All their incessant cries for “security of the nation first” have nothing to do with providing security to the people. If anything, Eritreans are more insecure now than ever – both from inside and outside. In a similar fashion, much of the opposition has been prioritizing democracy over people. The democracy proponents’ credo says it all: “The only change worth having is that of democracy” Notice the exhaustive either/or logic under which they have been working: either a regime change that ushers democracy or no regime change at all, thereby implicitly settling for the current regime to occupy the default position until they come up with a democratic solution. Given that a tailor-made change exact to their democratic specifications cannot be guaranteed ahead of time, their suicidal go-slow approach is only understandable. In both cases, however disparate they may seem in the “higher” goals they want to achieve, it is the same nationalistic drive that prioritizes ghedli-conceived “Eritrea” over the masses that explains their respective stands. In the latter case, the snail-paced, incremental pressure on the regime that they advocate is meant to assure no unexpected eventualities that may jeopardize that dream. In the meantime, both are willing to let the masses take all the beating they could, if that is what it takes to preserve the fragile “Eritrea” they harbor in their heads.
The here-and-now and the hereafter
I have labeled what the opposition of the peaceful type are doing as “democracy project” simply because almost everything they do revolves around democracy and democratization, to the neglect of the existential predicament that the nation finds itself now. The pervasiveness of the democracy project is inescapable. You see it dominating in almost any meeting, conference or symposium organized to tackle the Eritrean crisis, be it done by political or civic organizations. Even though many of these adherents of democracy are well-meaning though misguided in their prioritization of democracy, many others do it for dubious reasons – as seen in many of Shaebia- and Jebha-oriented opposition groups.
Disparate as these groups may seem, what is important to us is their commonality: all are so obsessed with the hereafter – with life after Isaias – that they pay little attention to the here and now – how to get rid of the regime and deliver the people from the existential threat they are living under. They are so preoccupied with preparations for the takeover that the task of regime change is relegated to the bottom of their wish list.
Hazhaz April 17, 2014
In my view YG has already addressed the issues raised by Fitsum.
You can read Yosief Ghebrehiwet’s entire article: The Eritrean Opposition: The Fallacies of Its Democracy Project
http://www.asmarino.com/articles/985-eritrean-opposition-the-fallacies-of-its-democracy-project
Here is the excerpt from YG’s article:
(II) What Has Democracy Got to Do with It? [an abridged version] (written on 01/25/10)
Among the opposition’s doing, the most harmful thing to Eritrea has been having its current predicament identified as a political rather than existential crisis. Once misdiagnosed as a political crisis, all try to find a political solution that invariably bypasses urgent issues of survival that has little to do with politics. The reason why most Eritreans in the opposition put undue focus on the “democracy project” – creating political parties, pushing for “unity” among parties, flirting with government-in-exile, discussing on what type of democratic government is suitable to Eritrea, rallying around the constitution or amending it or condemning it, strengthening democratic institutions in Diaspora, instilling democratic culture among youth organizations, advocating for free media and other democratic rights, conducting conferences and symposiums promoting democracy, writing endless papers on the virtue of democracy, etc – for providing a solution to the current crisis of existence primarily comes from this flawed understanding.
Both the regime’s supporters and most of its detractors have this “patriotic” tendency to criminally bypass the people’s existential predicament in order to achieve some higher “national” goal; all said and done, of course, in the name of the masses. The supporters of the regime are infamously known for prioritizing land over people. All their incessant cries for “security of the nation first” have nothing to do with providing security to the people. If anything, Eritreans are more insecure now than ever – both from inside and outside. In a similar fashion, much of the opposition has been prioritizing democracy over people. The democracy proponents’ credo says it all: “The only change worth having is that of democracy” Notice the exhaustive either/or logic under which they have been working: either a regime change that ushers democracy or no regime change at all, thereby implicitly settling for the current regime to occupy the default position until they come up with a democratic solution. Given that a tailor-made change exact to their democratic specifications cannot be guaranteed ahead of time, their suicidal go-slow approach is only understandable. In both cases, however disparate they may seem in the “higher” goals they want to achieve, it is the same nationalistic drive that prioritizes ghedli-conceived “Eritrea” over the masses that explains their respective stands. In the latter case, the snail-paced, incremental pressure on the regime that they advocate is meant to assure no unexpected eventualities that may jeopardize that dream. In the meantime, both are willing to let the masses take all the beating they could, if that is what it takes to preserve the fragile “Eritrea” they harbor in their heads.
The here-and-now and the hereafter
I have labeled what the opposition of the peaceful type are doing as “democracy project” simply because almost everything they do revolves around democracy and democratization, to the neglect of the existential predicament that the nation finds itself now. The pervasiveness of the democracy project is inescapable. You see it dominating in almost any meeting, conference or symposium organized to tackle the Eritrean crisis, be it done by political or civic organizations. Even though many of these adherents of democracy are well-meaning though misguided in their prioritization of democracy, many others do it for dubious reasons – as seen in many of Shaebia- and Jebha-oriented opposition groups.
Disparate as these groups may seem, what is important to us is their commonality: all are so obsessed with the hereafter – with life after Isaias – that they pay little attention to the here and now – how to get rid of the regime and deliver the people from the existential threat they are living under. They are so preoccupied with preparations for the takeover that the task of regime change is relegated to the bottom of their wish list.
Kidane Beraki April 17, 2014
Dear Fitsum; I am one of your illiterate brothers who will always admire you for caring about our people and your open mindedness not to mention your readiness to admit your shortcomings. I think it will serve us better if you stick to the urgent issue, saving our people from extinction, by discussing it in tigrigna, only if you can, or in a more simplistic English for the majority of our people to follow you. Majority being the key word here. No matter how many bright ideas you or other intelectual Eritreans come up with, if the majority of us reject them due to our inability of comprehension or some other parameters, you will fail. Listen to Amanuel or read his articles to see how he is reaching to the majority of us. He speaks undiluted language the majority can understand. Assuming the doctor’s, a contributor to assenna,finding “90%” illiteracy rate in Eritrea is a fact, here are, I believe, some untimely and sensitive issues you raised in your recent few articles that the majority of us may not understand or will not accept. 1. A statement to the effect of our people were forced to live together by ruthless rulers not by choice. With all due respect, from a hystorical perspective and colonialsm, I strongly disagree. Many people may take this offensive. 2. Discussing the “jeberti” issue, you stumbled and went of track. There may be some hystorical issues you may not be aware of and you may have offended some Christians like myself. …..is “a civilized” version of Christianity. W O W. I would have liked to see you debate a law scholar about the constitutionality of driving with a veil in America. Keep in mind there are always the few that stir trouble to cover up real issues. 3. I am also in owe in YGs transformation in such a short time in California. However,acknowledging his intelligense is one thing while agreeing with him in belittling a whole generation is out right offensive. “Asmarinos” are like any other urbanites. Some 30 years back I divided the “Asmarinos” in three categories; a)some of the best and brightest Eritrea produced educationally. b) the uneducated enterpreneurs, the only people who outskilled a European colonizer in the world and influenced not only their people but also the recent colonizers. c) The few who caused a lot of pain on others to cover up their inferriority, the empty heads.
YG’s analysis may have some truth and I agree with him on some parts of his premises but “gedli” generation as “colonizers” “sole owners of the city” is uncalled for. This generation took the conciousness level of our people to the higher level under the citcumstances and at that time. Selflessness or sacrificing oneselff for the betterment of your people is a noble cause anywhere on planet earth that I live in. A lot can be said in retrospect due to the hijacking of our destiny by an evil man or from a westernized mindset but you can not deny the facts of the miracles our galant brothers and sisters did. Surviving in Nakfa under those conditions requires a special mindest. Please may I sugest, revisit the testimonies of Dr. Fred hollows, Mr. Abdurahman Babu, prof. Dan Conel, Mr. Worthington and hundreds more. I short my brother please don’t venture into uncharted territories to alienate yourself from the majority. Instead please focus on your wonderful idea of “transitional democracy” for now because God willing, you will have enough time to teach us about the other issues after we save our people. Best wishes with love and respect.
fetsum abrahamt April 18, 2014
Dear Kidane;
I really feel sorry brother for suggesting me writing my articles in Tigrigna, something I did not learn to do. Do you want me to commit suicide of overworking when you have the capacity to do it if u think it is necessary? What don’t you tale ur share of the workload instead of shying away from it at the expense of others? Is Eritrea more important to me for few people to suggest this without taking their responsibility to do it themselves?
To be honest with you a suggestion like this irritates me strongly because people do not understand how much emotion and time this stuff is consuming at least from my life to the point of living at minimum (working full time on this). I believe that people (capable of writing Tigrigna and understanding English) that suggest such things are selfish because they want to overuse people in this struggle. Sorry for my emotion and I cannot do what u ask me to do because capacity, time and energy. I know u have the capacity to dsdo it but yet are willing? I apologize!
SARA April 17, 2014
We need to understand if we want Eritrea to continue as a nation we need to a have leader like Yosief Ghebrehiwet in Eritrea who understands Eritrea’s weakness. A leader who knows his country and his people weakness, would not lead a nation based on false history and ideologies like Isaias, instead leads based on reality. So, I believe Yosief Ghebrehiwet will be the first democratically elected president of Eritrea.
Genet-orginal April 17, 2014
SARA
Come on now sister. YG as, the first democratically elected president of Eritrea? Don’t push it. YG need to work on his PR first, because he tend to be a party pooper. I appreciate his courageous act of truth telling. The fact he is not afraid to tell us, we have a rotten “Ghdeli” history is praiseworthy. It is like they say, if you don’t know where you came from, you will have hard time to know where you are going. I find YG’s work to be partially cooked meal. He is notorious in pushing the hot button of Eritreans from the “Ghdeli” era. However, he falls short, in providing alternatives for the young and young adult Eritreans who are the victims of “Ghdeli” era’s politics. If his work is limited to only to let Eritrean know, at all time, we have problems that nobody can fix, I guess, this can be a motivation for the productive Eritreans to work hard and proves him wrong. I will come back later with more about what I think about YG’s outlook of Eritrean issue.
Genet-Original
Kalighe April 17, 2014
Genet, we had enough of Iseyas and all those rootless who hate to be Eritreans. Any one who has a problem with Eritrean identity should look for a country he/she think belongs to. The next President of Eritrea will be an indigenous Eritrean, a proud ‘Wedebat’ who want serve his/her people. Most probably will be a Kunama or anyone from the minorities.
He/she needs to prove that he/she works to realize the dream of our loved martyrs: A free and democratic Eritrea, built on cherished lofty values of our ancestors of tolerance, and love of Fatherland.
belay nega April 18, 2014
Kalighe,
“Genet, we had enough of Iseyas and all those rootless who hate to be Eritreans.”
If according you the founder and leader of the organization, which made ERITRAWINET to be possible is rootless,you are in the same page with YG who believes that ERITRAWINET is artificially blended.Unless otherwise.
belay nega April 17, 2014
Genet-original,
“The fact he is not afraid to tell us, we have a rotten “Ghdeli” history is praiseworthy. It is like they say, if you don’t know where you came from, you will have hard time to know where you are going.”
አብ ርእስኻ መስማር ንኽሸክል ዝፈቀድካሉ: ነቲ መስማር ስሒቱ ርእስኻ ክይሃርመካ ምፍራሕ:ነብስኻ ምትላል እዩ::