Dialog with Yosief Ghebrehiwet on his “The Eritrean Oblomov: Loving Asmara the Superfluous Way” 03/24/2014
Fetsum: Author of From Feminist to Rapist and The Curse of Being and Living It. You can find the books at Amazon Books. Announcement: I am going to do my one man band musical show on May 2 in DC and expose my original
Fetsum: Author of From Feminist to Rapist and The Curse of Being and Living It. You can find the books at Amazon Books.
Announcement: I am going to do my one man band musical show on May 2 in DC and expose my original music and you are all invited to attend it spiritually if not physically. My special guests happen to be Yemane Barya, Usman Abdulrahim, Tewelde Redda and Teddy Afro. I believe art has to reflect human condition in a given society and these true artists in my opinion have been serving the Eritrean cause for independence and its current quest for freedom and democracy. As for Teddy Afro, I respect his artistic contribution in building peace between Moslems and Christians, and the Ethiopians and the Eritreans.
Narrative: Trying to spot the best Eritrean minds and collecting them to act for practical change in the country with a well defined strategy does not allow you bypassing Yosief Gebrehiwet who has relentlessly been assisting this resistance way before we started speaking out openly. Today, I feel comfortable discussing his latest article at Asmarino and hopefully we will start working together in the process. I will challenge Yosief Gebrehiwet on something special at the end of our exchange of opinions on this article only if he calls me. Enjoy the show!
Yosief: “Given the 50 years of hell that they have gone through, … one that renders [the Gedhli generation] superfluous to the society, is their adamant refusal to adapt to the emerging reality. So what seems to be activity under superfluous description remains to be total inactivity under relevant description. That is, they were willing to go through hell in order to stay “relevant” through irrelevant attributes only.”
Comment: Yosief’s mind is sometimes hard to figure out because it makes you think deeper than the norm eventually landing you in whatever way you may understand the real point. It is from this angle that I am taking a shot at his intellectual radiation. I have a little problem with said activity under said superfluous description because the first imposed Ethiopian contact with the Eritreans after the Italian colonialism that caused the struggle (activity in this context) was not based on superfluous imagination but rather on rationally describable facts so to say, for the Eritreans had to react to the Ethiopian interference one way or another. I believe there was a rational reason for the Eritrean struggle despite the disgusting result while I agree that today’s Eritrean reality with said Gedhli generation has been said inactivity under relevant description. Inactivity in this context being the regime’s uncultured mentality of sticking to absolute dictatorship and ignorance while the relevant descriptions of today’s interconnected universe remain to be education, democracy, freedom, development and civilized governance under the rule of law. I could have misunderstood your articulation and please reverse me if you think so.
Yosief: “Wings on a rabbit, flapping or not, wouldn’t make it soar high up in the sky; to the contrary, it would mercilessly pin it down to the ground that it wouldn’t even be able to move, let alone run. Education has provided the African elite with such superfluous wings; yet, whenever the occasion arises, they love to show them off by flapping them while rendered immobile by the sheer weight of those epiphenomenal wings. And when a nation is taken under their wings, a whole population finds itself pinned down to the ground – as Eritrea finds itself now.”
Comment: A scholar can achieve degrees after degrees but one remains useless to society and a parasite as well if the knowledge is only advertised on the living room walls through well framed certificates without positively affecting the society in relevance. Capsulating knowledge within the self is a terrible thing to do. Interesting is that useless intellectualism is a heavier burden to society than anything else can ever be because a given society, the universe at large pays dearly to educate an individual to PhD level of the academic stratum (probably more than 20 years in time and millions of dollars in expenditures). One can then imagine the waste and the parasitic relationship between a quietist scholar and the society/societies that molded one to be scholarized. The universal investment on a quietist intellectual produces zero output or sheer uselessness in this situation.
To make it worse, opportunist scholars in a given society always serve the oppressors becoming part of the collective social problem. The parasitic relationship intensifies in this situation from uselessness to dangerousness because opportunism as such does not stop at uselessness point of the relationship but also explodes against the society by serving the enemy at the brain level of its system. An opportunist scholar should then be the heaviest burden of society for simultaneously attacking it with the lethal curse of uselessness and dangerousness.
Yosief: “In a rather haunting déjà vou scenario, the going away and the coming back of the ghedli generation had the same structural similarity in their superfluity that makes us question the relevance of the time in between. When they went to Sahel, they went armed with their urban elite experiences (that “modern” attribute they thought essentially distinguishes them from the Other) but found no use for it in the new environment; instead, they had to do everything through sheer brutality to stay relevant. In the process, whatever “modern values” they had cherished before gave way to new values acquired at mieda. That is, temekro muhur had lethally metamorphosed into temekro mieda, with superfluity as the enduring common characteristic that ties them both in their deep family resemblance. Thus, when they reentered Asmara in triumph, they came back armed with the most superfluous attribute that would find no currency at all in modern day Eritrea: temekro mieda. And here is the crux of the matter: both temekros could be sustained only by rendering the ghebar invisible – a precondition for the brutalities to follow.”
Comment: Brilliant and interesting summary: It just seems like the Eritrean people have been sandwiched between the two seemingly inappropriate applications to their concrete realities: temekro muhur during the struggle andtemekro mieda after independence. The two temekuros like you put it very well appear similar in contradictive relationship with the two Eritrean realities in their respective eras; the ultimate result on the society being exactly the same in quality: misfit and destructive! The other constant element in your analysis of this topic was that the two misplaced theories had to be implemented by violence. Violence is the only means of implementing a misfit ideology in society as you clearly taught it in your magnificent work, meaning that the Eritrean people twice suffered the liberators’ violence as the consequence of said gedli generation’stheoretical and practical flip-flopping in inverse relationship to their realities in the respective eras on discussion.
Yosief: “As in the case of the Russian gentry, the “liberators” adamantly refused to adapt to the new reality because it would require giving up their privileged status. Instead, not only had they been trying to do everything through temekro mieda, they went as far as attempting to recreate it nationally in the form of national service. The sheer incompatibility of temekro mieda to modern day Eritrea, one that has brought the nation nothing but one monumental disaster after another, is a result of this strange belief that this epiphenomenal experience could accomplish miracles on its own. “
Comment: The concept of liberation was all together misplaced for strictly territorial independence in view of the leader/s of the struggle while misunderstood for having been for freedom and democracy in view of the people. Liberation starts right at the home base within the liberator’s inner individuality. How can a confined individual liberate others? A person that is not mentality free cannot understand the meaning of freedom nor can one cause the freedom of others. In so saying, individualism is the most obvious symptom of a confined mind and Mr. Afwerki failed to secure freedom for Eritreans because he is a chronic sufferer of the syndrome: too precarious a man to himself to hardly help other human conditions in his environment.
I believe your detailed work on the golden age of Asmara, Asmara and the Gedhli generation, and Interrupting Asmara’s growth, were outstanding in quality. I was surprised how detailed you infiltrated into the elements that constitute your highly educational material. You have a special capacity of delivering so much information in exceptionally compressed volume, extraordinary talent in creative-description of subject matters needless to say that you have defined a reference mark for philosophical excellence, in my opinion. I appreciate and thank you for sharing your mind with us Eritreans in such a fearless and intellectual fashion. I was even more fascinated by your analysis inPurifying Asmara based on the relationship between the Khmer Rouge and the Shabias in villagizing the city by sucking out the elite class to SAWA for ultimate refugee life and between North Korea and the Shaebias in changing its demographic face making it the home of predominantly women and PFDJ members. Your input was an excellent effort that clarifies a lot of complex issues about our predicament. Although the entire content of your article was important I found the following worth repeating here for people to briefly understand what has been going on. People who read the article can bypass this portion.
Yosief: “Purifying Asmara: No government has done a better job of the displacement policy than the Khmer Rouge of Cambodia. The total empting of the capital city – with more than two million inhabitants – within a day or so after their arrival was mainly motivated by the fierce hatred and resentment the Khmer Rouge guerrillas had developed for ghebar while they were “struggling against the oppressor” in the bush.
The Eritrean situation has never gotten as bad as the Khmer Rouge’s mainly because of the country’s porous borders19, but the anti-intellectual drive, and the venomous spite against ghebar that goes with it, that sent the Khmer guerrillas on a rampage to empty entire towns and cities of their inhabitants is the very same drive that made Shaebia empty the cities and towns of their youth. The entire youth population has been systematically emptied from the cities and towns and cordoned off in “mieda” under the name of national service; and, in due time, defending the nation and developing a “self-reliant” economy are meant to turn these internal exiles into the next generation of “Shaebia men” – all trademarks of the Khmer Rouge.
The question of purity doesn’t only deal with those targeted to be evicted, but also with those selected to remain in the city. Looking into this purification process, it would be revealing to check the inhabitants of North Korea’s capital city, Pyongyang, for that is what Asmara is increasingly looking like. Two of the demographic groups that mainly make up the population of Pyongyang are party members and women. The similarities with Asmara are rather striking.
Similarly, let’s ask: where are the adult men of Asmara to be found? They are either in the national service serving the army or outside the country, in refugee camps and beyond. “
Comment: Wow!
Yosief: “The coloinial mind of the urban elite: Sometimes I think that Asmara has done more psychological damage than good to the Eritrean elite, given that all their sense of betterment came from owning that city and all their revolutionary zeal from wanting to be the sole owners of that city. If so, that by itself would have been enough to trace the colonial mind of the ghedli generation.”
Comment: Very interesting thought entertainment! It seems to me that Asmara was taken by many Eritreans as a symbol of civilization compared to other societies and specially the Ethiopians. Before we knew it, something fallacious was installed into our psych in relation to beautiful Asmara as if we made it ourselves. As time went on, we grew believing that we constructed a better city than the rest in Ethiopia and framed a comparative psychological reference to all others based on this imaginary theory by which we cased in point as the most civilized people in the region and the continent at large. That is where we faced the contradiction between our assumption of the self (society) and reality.”
I also think we used Asmara as psychological defense mechanism against Addis Ababa which was growing at a faster rate. The imaginary Eritrean superiority to the Ethiopians was unconsciously radiating through extreme urge of eternally keeping Asmara better than Addis. The psychic connotation behind the urge for Eritreans to signify their importance vis a vis the Ethiopians through Asmara’s betterment than Addis was an interesting reality to confront because I was one of them. Although most of our people were modest enough to never have been affected by this complex psycho-phenomenon, I think it was very visible on those that lived highly exaggerating the essence of Asmarino and undermining the rest based on. The concept of Asmarino at a point in the experience appears having had the tendency to discriminate or to at least undermine the entire Eritrean population for backwardness (This may be common in many societies).
What we proved after independence was that we could not even keep the resources we inherited from colonialism forget about developing them ahead. We actually deteriorated everything inherited in Eritrea from education and economy to technology at home court: One inherited university gone and one inherited beach (Gorgussom) barely surviving. In the contrast, what the educated member of the society in Diaspora proved was even more troublesome to me. It was actively participating with remarkable conformist determination to the fronts during the struggle for independence but so inactive and terrified it has been in this resistance for freedom and democracy.
Our performance after independence proved that Asmara as a city and the rest of Italian made Eritrea do not represent the Eritrean reality in terms of capacity and maintenance. We still have to show that we were capable of leading a healthy nation as the fruit of our independence through our own home based development instead of through the colonial legacy in Eritrea. Sadly, we did not get the chance to challenge this predicament because of the unexpected absolute dictatorship and we are not working hard to reverse the situation Out scholars with all their capacities could not collectively take a project and put a transitional formula on paper, something the least they could, to the disgrace of the Eritrean society. I hope they will do it from now on but the motion is still very slow compared to the time sensitive Eritrean situation.
Yosief: “All that I have been trying do in this posting is to remind readers that life in both urban and rural Eritrea was normal before it was interrupted by ghedli, thereby attempting to debunk the great lie that the ghedli romantics have been feeding the masses: that the case of Eritrea is that of colonial oppression. “
Comment: Colonialism as something related to the Eritrean experience had been an over exhausted subject matter by both Eritrean and Ethiopian elites since the start of the Eritrean struggle for independence. This subject cannot be precisely figured out. Any intruder is a colonizer to me, immaterial what others may call the situation. It is not a direct phenomenon that can be mathematically answered or proven. I think colonialism is effectuated mainly due to capacity to finance it and to hold it by force which both the Italians and the Ethiopians had in relation to Eritrea irrespective of their difference in race, technology and treatment of the people under control.
The concept is open for philosophical entertainment by any thinker. Back in the days, the Ethiopian students’ movement lived trying to categorize whether the Eritrean question was colonial or national. To me it was both, though of course the topic is beyond this discussion which I did in detail in my book (the curse of being and living it). The fact remains that it does not matter anymore 23 years after the Eritrean independence was actualized and in front of its universally accepted sovereignty. The unique African experience, the Southern Sudanese independence needless to say totally over justifies the Eritrean independence that was caused by European colonialism at the root point of the matter. The Southern Sudan independence is to date the only exceptional happenstance in Africa: evolution of a society to nation hood through the foundation of a NATIONAL question. This was so because the former Sudan was colonized by the British as a whole piece and thus the southern part succeeded from the Sudan without the conventionally understood colonial justification (associated with the Arabic Sudanese) merely on the basics of NATIONAL QUESTION. This is unprecedented in Africa if I am correct.
Yosief: “Paradoxically, it is the ghedli generation that has been displaying all the characteristics of colonists – that is, starting from the very Cause itself, not as caused by colonial oppression but by colonial inspiration. If there is anything that could define colonialism as it occurred in Africa and elsewhere, it is the fact that it was an unparalleled interruption in the way of life of the colonized people. “
Comment: To me, conditioning the Eritrean political system under the Ethiopian monarchy by itself signified Ethiopia’s daily interference in the Eritrean life of the time. We were forced to learn Amharic as a national language and Ethiopianized in very controversial circumstances. We were made to tax to the Ethiopian central government and our ports utilized by the Ethiopian navy and shipping lines needless to say that the people suffered a lot as the consequence of the struggle which you tried to see in isolation from its root cause, Emperor Hailesselassie’s interference in the Eritrean socio-political life. The struggle would never have taken place at least in its actual form and focal point without the Ethiopian interference in the Eritrean society’s private business. We may never have experienced Afwerki’s dictatorship without the root cause of the struggle which was Ethiopia’s imposing contact with our society. The truth remains, however, that we suffered more intensely under this regime as you clearly put it with convincing authority. The Gedli generation is a colonizer in view of the current Eritrean situation. Colonialism cannot do worse damage in any society than what the Shabias did to our society.
I believe the Eritrean question having been colonial or national is outdated as a result of Eritrea’s nationhood. The argument has died out without concrete resolution 50 years after the confrontation between the two camps (national or colonial) as a consequence of the Eritrean independence which is legally actualized forever. I don’t see any advantage in discussing these issues at this stage in our experience where the independence has completely closed the topic leaving it for historians and social scientists to write books on ahead and the Ethiopians accepted our sovereignty without any visible complication.
“In philosophy’s realm of the spirit there is no objective certainty and no confirmation. Communication is the path to truth”, said Jaspers; whatever the truth may be relative to the particular conditions that cause its existence. The truth in this situation being whether the Eritrean question was colonial or national.
The question of right and wrong or that of true or false is so elusive, it can force one into conscious or unconscious breaching of other people’s perceptional territories. At the bottom line, however, there is no such thing as objective truth or reality in the socio-philosophical spectrum of life for no human nature can measure a concept or an outlook in pieces: it can only deal with it through elucidations or subjective truth. The moment we freely exhaust all possible constants and variables of something without bias to our individual opinions we have relatively reached the best limits of absolute truth only in relative scale in that regard. The fact remains that subjectivity cannot always represent objectivity nor can it be fully expressed by a person’s individual feelings and preconditions for the universe does not revolve around an individual’s concept of reality. Objective reality is achievable by arresting individual interest in favor of universally valid standards. No subjective outlook focused on making objective impact can succeed without appreciating the notion that human beings react to different situations differently by natural fabric. Arguing about whether something is true or not does not change the real nature of a subject matter in examination for nothing satisfies everybody else equally. “People may keep looking for the right answer, but there is no right answer. Everything is relative rather than absolute. That is the answer”, says LAMA SURYA DAS in Awakening the Buddha within.
What I think is that philosophy as open ended phenomenon has never had and can never have a precise answer. Human beings have never completely agreed on a concept that cannot be empirically proven, they only compromised. No one can prove whether the Eritrean question was colonial or national with absolute authority for the terms themselves cannot define the associated reality in complete format. But every commonsense can agree on a reality that materially projects itself in concrete existentialism. We cannot deny the existence of a rock displayed in front of our eyes nor can we deny that Afwerki was the president of Eritrea. By the same token, no one can deny the sovergnity of Eritrea immaterial whether its question was colonial or national. What matters most is what we need right now to have a better society and how!
History must locally move forward positively impacting a society for further universal impact which our immediate priority in our case is democratizing the country and then moving on forward resiliently confronting whatever may come in the way in relation to the continental development as a family with all other African societies (Pan Africanism, Regional Integration, etc.). Right now, however, everything including our history is secondary to our freedom. We need to concentrate on our immediate priority TRANSITIONAL GOVERNMENT TO DEMOCRACY full-fledged ahead because this challenge is our concrete reality leaving our account overall for social scientists to write books on for future generations.
In conclusion, the momentous universal truth is that there is a dire need to clean the so said Gedhli temokro poison replacing it with a normal society that conforms to the sociopolitical and technological realities of the universe through the power of intellectual intervention. There is an independent nation called Eritrea suffering from the worst form of absolute dictatorship that needs the immediate attention of its intellectuals to transit it to democracy irrespective of what the cause of its struggle for independence had been. There is a nation called Eritrea that must independently move on forward from here on immaterial what happened in the past with external forces and regardless of how it achieved independence.
Our concrete reality is that there is a big role brother Yosief Gebrehiwet can play if he pays attention to our suggestion: Designing Eritrea’s transitional formula to democracy based on the Accra Peace Accord that transited Liberia into democracy. I am asking you with maximum humility to join me in the development of the transitional formula with other highly educated Eritreans currently contemplating on. I am appealing for your phone call as soon as possible so that I can share what I am trying to do with my fellow compatriots and put your extra ordinary intelligence into effect to energize it into the next level of resistance. Please call me at 202-702-3977after you first text me so that I can respond immediately.
think April 15, 2014
“I have a little problem with said activity under said superfluous description because the first imposed Ethiopian contact with the Eritreans after the Italian colonialism that caused the struggle”
“I also think we used Asmara as psychological defense mechanism against Addis Ababa which was growing at a faster rate. The imaginary Eritrean superiority to the Ethiopians was unconsciously radiating through extreme urge of eternally keeping Asmara better than Addis”
Well sir,you have picked up the gontlet that you have a problem with the assumption and facts regarding colonialistic relationship between Eritrea and Ethiopia. But you came up with one of the bases of illhealth of gedli and the base of your “littel problem”.
It is difficult to go forward in case of Eritrea without knowing and coming in terms with the past specially with regards to what were the base for seeking independence. I can imagine that you missed the whole “circular journey” which I suggest you read it and I and many cohorts would beg you to enlighten us on what were the bases for Eritrea’s independence?
“Although most of our people were modest enough to never have been affected by this complex psycho-phenomenon” Really?
Meretse Asmelash April 15, 2014
Mr Tesfamariam,
You sound like you are a bit irritated by how dare Festum invites YG for a debate. Can you tell us what exactly is wrong with inviting someone for such a debate? Second, how do you know ahead of time about the agenda of the intended debate that would be: about colonialism, neocolonialism, special colonialism, or somewhat like that?
Mr. Tesfamariam, let YG reveals himself. And, remember, true and valid ideas always lives free and strong for ages without seeking any defender. In other words, any sound idea (philosophy) can perfectly stand on its own feet.
By now, some of us seems to know YG from afar, however since that is not enough reason to judge someone let’s have a chance to know him better up closely through the intended debate.
Mr tesfamariam, I’m not worried about who is going to win or lose on this debate; what I’m worried about is: if one or both of them tried to use a surplus of words during the given time, then you and I might end up having a different conclusion which obviously is the road to misunderstanding each other.
Hope the intended debate is for education and not for destruction some what like the elite writers are hoping.
rezen April 15, 2014
I think, I am confused, honestly! What is the whole point?
If the cardinal issue (which is well enunciated, regardless of its being accepted or not] is to:
“Designing Eritrea’s transitional formula to democracy based on the Accra Peace Accord that transited Liberia into democracy.”,
then, why not invite/inform/solicit ALL [without mentioning specific individuals] on the open internet for their reaction/involvement/etc. Period. And take it from there. Anybody who has the ability to contribute and willing to participate would obviously give his/her response on the open media — unless there are ‘difficulties’ against doing so. Reading all the responses, I am afraid that “complexity” is being developed that leads to no where — if not destructive. Finally, why do we need private telephone calls for public affairs?
fetsum abrahamt April 15, 2014
Rezen; a phone call is not necessary so don’t get confused. it is just a suggestion to construct closer relationship towards the homework ahead. YG does not have to call me if does not see a mutual benefit in it.
Tsehaye April 15, 2014
Rezen,
You may not be aware of it,but there is no single Eritrean affair that has not started in private and by private Erireans. Even the evil and all-alien-loving ghedli was strted in private by private Eritreans. Shaebia was started by a handful of Eritreans that included DIA. And if the above author thinks he can do something about the plight of Eritreans with some of the greatest minds of Eritreans such as Yosief G., he has all the rights how to start his move and with whom to start.
rezen April 16, 2014
“…he has all the rights how to start his move and with whom to start.”
Tsehaye,
You are, of course, absolutely correct. And Fetsum, admirably, chose to include us — the public.
Thank you.
Mizra Shinfa April 16, 2014
Based Accra accord ?! Formula for democracy?!
12 years after signing the CPA Accra Accord, the country is still under the protection of peacekeeping strong force and believe me it is far from democracy … closer to anarchy.
Better watch what you wish for!
rezen April 15, 2014
It is “confused-me” again! Forgive me, please
WHAT DEBATE ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? What Festum did is to review and give commentaries on Yosief Ghberehiwot’s Article. Festum concluded with a suggestion/invitation for input from him on a new idea:”Designing Eritrea’s transitional formula to democracy based on the Accra Peace Accord that transited Liberia into democracy.” I think it clear. Why is ‘confusion’ is brewing on such straight forward suggestion???
Genet-orginal April 15, 2014
Dear Fitsum and all commentators.
I read Fitsum’s article. But I did not read any message indicating competition with with YG. I read YG’s past articles and I find his work to be absolutely the truth; for people who are not afraid to hear the truth about our country. He is a courageous Eritrean and Everybody should learn from him. I noticed YG’s message can be hard to understand, not only his sophisticated, philosophical knowledge of the Eritrean fact, but the lack of assertion that he believes Eritrea and Eritrean can’t go back to the pre 1960 era. Also, there is a PR (public relation) problem for YG. May be it is because of YG’s high level of sophistication and intelligence, he is understood by few intellectuals. Even the few intellectuals have difficulty understanding his position of what Eritrea should do now. Hence, his thought process of the colonial VS national issue is not clear. For those of you, who are jumping the gun, Fitsum is actually giving YG the exposure he deserves. Also, regardless how one is smart and intelligent, he should be rightfully challenged on issues.
On this article, Fitsum stated, “I believe the Eritrean question having been colonial or national is outdated as a result of Eritrean’s nationhood… I don’t see any advantage in discussing these issues at this stage in our experience where the Independence completely closed the topic” This statement is true. For worst or better we are independent Nation. To know the past certainly, will help us how to go forward. What YG is doing is undoubtedly a service for our people. Telling us the truth, even when it hurts like a pain no other is useful to us. Therefore, constructive criticism to any body, be it intellectuals like Fitsum, YG or an average Eritrean like I, makes a difference. It is not about competition, it is about healthy dialogue, exposure, reaching out and finding a lasting solution for our problem. I would like to see Fitsum’s and YG’s articles written in Tigranya to have their message to reach many more Eritreans. Thanks
Genet-Original
Meretse Asmelash April 15, 2014
Dear genet,
The sad irony is the so called elite writers are free to write about anything that comes to their mind whether it has something to do with the current situation or not; but when it comes to others it is a taboo and he/she is asked to walk out of the theater. Rather than challenging his/her idea they call him/her names until they run out of words. Bear in mind, I’m not trying to defend a particular writer here; I’m just giving my comments based on how I feel about writers, intellectuals as well all commentators. If we are going to win the war against this notorious dictator, what we first need to do is: respecting each others idea (ideas) and challenge at times if it is indeed needed to be challenged.
Under any circumstances there shall not be any force trying to control our fate. We had more than enough experiences from the DIA and his blind followers.
After all, let us realize that we are living in twenty-first century.
Genet-orginal April 16, 2014
Dear Meretse Asmelash
Constructive criticism forces people, to see what they missed about any given issue. I think, some people are missing the point, when they see comments from many people and view points. They tend to get irritated by comments that they don’t agree with. The free flow discussion of issues that matter to us Eritreans, here at Assenna should be done with the ultimate respect. People have a right to concentrate on one point or anther, they care about from a long article, as long as they don’t give their own fact. All of us are entitled to our opinions, but not to our facts. Having said that, we also shouldn’t be naive, about people who try to sabotage a good discussion. Brother Meretse, I agree with your point. We shouldn’t hesitate from challenging any one about issues, even if the person is Albert Einstein. Beside, isn’t it the reason in part, why we are the mess we are in is fifty years of unchallenged and unchecked one man’s power. Thanks.
Genet-Original
Meretse Asmelash April 15, 2014
Dear rezen,
I think it is us that we should ask forgiveness. Whether we like it or not, we have been drawing a wrong picture based on the power of our imagination. I hope these two guys will understand our weakness better, for it was only a flash from our subconscious mind.
Good observation rezen. And thank you for saving the commentators from taking a hazardous trip.
rezen April 16, 2014
Greetings! Meretse,
I think your parents should have given you a middle name >>>”Bigirma” don’t ask me to decipher it!
Thank you for the elegantly put commentaries. There is nothing like a civilized communication. It can accomplish so much, beginning with changed mood of the recipient. Ahhhh … if only some commentators learn the art of communication. But I suppose we must have them both. Otherwise how would we appreciate the sweetness of the other side of the scale!!! And so, Life goes on—the good and the bad, together!
By the way, Meretse, let me share with you a little recent history lesson that I just learned [it will cost you a cup of tea!!!]. As you know, it is the oncoming subject matter for discussion as proposed by Fetsum as a base for “Designing Eritrea’s transitional formula to democracy”.
“ The Accra Peace Agreement was the final peace agreement in the Liberian Civil War. It was signed on the 18th of August 2003 in Accra, Ghana. It was created following the signing of the Accra Ceasefire Agreement on the 17th of June 2003 and “intensive back-door negotiations” which began on June 4 … The Agreement called for the establishment of a post-war transitional government (National Transitional Government of Liberia) which would consist of 76 members: 12 each from the three warring parties; 18 from political parties; seven from civil society and special interest groups; and one from each of Liberia’s 15 counties. The warring parties, the opposition parties and civil society groups agreed to share ministerial portfolios and employment opportunities in the cabinet and parliament and elections were to be held no later than 2005. Former Nigerian Head of State General Abdulsalami Abubakar facilitated the negotiations that led to the agreement.”
And, if you have the time, you may wish to get hold of a book entitled: “And Still Peace Did Not Come” by Agnes Fallah Kamara-UMUNNA. NO, she is not Eritrean! She is Liberian. And for those who………………………………. I better STOP here before I plunge myself into bubbling hot waters
I wish you and all readerships Happy Easter.
fetsum abrahamt April 17, 2014
Rezen;
I am sure they have better peace and stabilty than us and no one has achieved 100% success on anything any where in this world. We can not achieve 100% success but we can have a better nation (peace and stability) through it. There has to be another way doing it otherwise and we want to know what it is.
Fact-is-Fact April 15, 2014
The point at least from my angle is this. When do we STOP bickering and come together if we really care about our people & the nation? Isn’t that a a clear inversion of common sense & logic when we keep talking endless, when we give priority to writings, to debates, to bickering while PFDJ literally, even at its most uprooted position, continues to rule unchallenged.
The criticsm is to all of us, including YG & everone of us as we continue to hoop from one failure to another failure. Even the beal-arabia rider has intellectual comprehension of putting the horse before the cart. Do we? if we really care as we have been fluffing we do. we might, but does our pain synchronize with the likes of Yemane barya. If it had had, then it is a definite thing that there would have been tangible, formidable people/s power if not result by now.
For me the only Eritrean that echoed and deeply wept & cried & remained a standout asince 1996 along his website inception who eventually, inevitably tired is the Asmarino.com owner, At Tes Meharena. If every Eritrean is inflicted with the similar pain of his people as his, then logic would have ruled the Eritrean diaspora landscape instead of all these come again-gone-again platform of failure. if only, every one of us gauge our individual capacity, and understands, without the other person that we, as individuals, can’t do sh*t. so complimenting one another’s individual capacity is the way to go! There is NO other option. PFDJ, under the leadership of the most evil but dynamic netwroking skills of Isaias Afewerki has smarted out all of us, western educated bunches. Our chips on the shoulders have kept us dark & doomed! we are failures if you look at it from any quadrant.
How many Eritrean writers popped up since Dehai.org came to exist and disappear as though the upheavel their people are going thru ain’t theirs? well, in one sense you can’t blame them. The bickering get the best of them and made them disappear. who wants to bicker with peoiple who possess no logic, who donot know their individual place in the scontribution, coomon cause. People (Eritreans every one) needs to know their individual capoacity and place and understand where they can chip in. but again it a world of Eritreans and that is how grooves. Poor mothers who lost 3/4/5/6 children for a revolution that end up institutionally destituting, dehumanizing them. what a tragic histroy!
Tsehaye April 15, 2014
Fetsum,
I really admire your honesty and willingness to discuss with one of the greatest man (YG) that highland Eritrea has ever produced in order to find a solution to the soaring miseries of Eritreans. I hope he will heed your call for a discussion. Highland Eritrea is on the verge of extinction as the result of wars and a whole young generation leaving the nation.
Gideon April 15, 2014
Bravo Mr Fetsum,
I really appreciate immensely your contribution and hard working to see democratic and better Eritrea. I do follow your articles and analysis and you always amaze me with your broad based political maturity. When it comes to the brilliant YG, he is by far the front runner among the few Eritrean intellectuals who understand fully Eritrea of yesterday, today and tomorrow. You can also disagree with his views but don’t underestimate his audience. YG is really an intelligent person. Intelligent in the sense that, he sees and analyzes circumstances critically. This in mind, it doesn’t surprise me the fact that deep seated worries prevent most other Eritrean intellectuals from addressing issues as they are instead they tend to evade or dodge them for the greater good but not the super YG.
However, as sister Genet-O put it very accurately our dearest brother YG does need lots of help with his PR as soon as possible.
Hagherawi April 16, 2014
“May be it is because of YG’s high level of sophistication and intelligence, he is understood by few intellectuals. Even the few intellectuals have difficulty understanding his position of what Eritrea should do now.”
Genet
I don’t see any difficulty in understanding what YG has been saying all along.
His message is very clear to many Eritreans, in particular to those who went to Ghedli and spent decades working for the cause of their people. Anyone familiar with Ethiopian policies in Eritrea during Hailesillasie can easily understand many of his messages. Some of the issues he keeps raising (Christian/Muslim/highland/lowland divide) are as old as Eritrea.
There is no country in the Horn that has no such problems, including Ethiopia.
Although written in a very sophisticated language there is very little new political message in it.
YG knows very little about real Eritrea. His writings lack substance. He has no first hand experience with Ghedli.
He knows nothing about Eritrean society outside Kebesa. He doesn’t understand any Eritrean language other than Tigrigna.
His issues with Eritrean nationhood is very selective. He was invited to answer questions about Djibouti, Somalia, Sudan but never wanted to reply to the questions forwarded to him. Is Djibouti a nation ?, what makes Djibouti a nation and Eritrea not ?, or any country in the Horn for that matter ?. He will never answer such questions.
As someone who advocates for Ethiopian intervention is Eritrea, his ideas are dangerous. And no amount of sophistry can hide that he is an Ethiopianist who hates Eritrea.
I encourage Fetsum to invite YG and engage him.
Tezareb April 16, 2014
Hagherawi writes,
“YG knows very little about real Eritrea. His writings lack substance. He has no first hand experience with Ghedli.”
First, YG knows very himself and YG also knows Eritrea more than any slave who is ashamed about his own languages Tigre -Tigrnia. YG is a towering writer and thinker in the Horn of Africa.
Tsehaye April 16, 2014
Hagerawi,
Here is a challenging question as a homework for you. Is there anything about the lunatic ghedli that you know better than YG or the average Eritreans? Please keep your ego a little bit deflated. Filling it with too much air may eventually burst. Egotism is also considered a health hazard.