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Dialog with Yosief Ghebrehiwet on his “The Eritrean Oblomov: Loving Asmara the Superfluous Way” 03/24/2014

Fetsum: Author of From Feminist to Rapist and The Curse of Being and Living It. You can find the books at Amazon Books. Announcement: I am going to do my one man band musical show on May 2 in DC and expose my original

Fetsum: Author of From Feminist to Rapist and The Curse of Being and Living ItYou can find the books at Amazon Books.
Announcement: I am going to do my one man band musical show on May 2 in DC and expose my original music and you are all invited to attend it spiritually if not physically. My special guests happen to be Yemane Barya, Usman Abdulrahim, Tewelde Redda and Teddy Afro. I believe art has to reflect human condition in a given society and these true artists in my opinion have been serving the Eritrean cause for independence and its current quest for freedom and democracy. As for Teddy Afro, I respect his artistic contribution in building peace between Moslems and Christians, and the Ethiopians and the Eritreans.
Narrative: Trying to spot the best Eritrean minds and collecting them to act for practical change in the country with a well defined strategy does not allow you bypassing Yosief Gebrehiwet who has relentlessly been assisting this resistance way before we started speaking out openly. Today, I feel comfortable discussing his latest article at Asmarino and hopefully we will start working together in the process. I will challenge Yosief Gebrehiwet on something special at the end of our exchange of opinions on this article only if he calls me. Enjoy the show!
Yosief: “Given the 50 years of hell that they have gone through, … one that renders [the Gedhli generation] superfluous to the society, is their adamant refusal to adapt to the emerging reality. So what seems to be activity under superfluous description remains to be total inactivity under relevant description. That is, they were willing to go through hell in order to stay “relevant” through irrelevant attributes only.”
Comment: Yosief’s mind is sometimes hard to figure out because it makes you think deeper than the norm eventually landing you in whatever way you may understand the real point. It is from this angle that I am taking a shot at his intellectual radiation. I have a little problem with said activity under said superfluous description because the first imposed Ethiopian contact with the Eritreans after the Italian colonialism that caused the struggle (activity in this context) was not based on superfluous imagination but rather on rationally describable facts so to say, for the Eritreans had to react to the Ethiopian interference one way or another. I believe there was a rational reason for the Eritrean struggle despite the disgusting result while I agree that today’s Eritrean reality with said Gedhli generation has been said inactivity under relevant description. Inactivity in this context being the regime’s uncultured mentality of sticking to absolute dictatorship and ignorance while the relevant descriptions of today’s interconnected universe remain to be education, democracy, freedom, development and civilized governance under the rule of law. I could have misunderstood your articulation and please reverse me if you think so.
Yosief: “Wings on a rabbit, flapping or not, wouldn’t make it soar high up in the sky; to the contrary, it would mercilessly pin it down to the ground that it wouldn’t even be able to move, let alone run. Education has provided the African elite with such superfluous wings; yet, whenever the occasion arises, they love to show them off by flapping them while rendered immobile by the sheer weight of those epiphenomenal wings. And when a nation is taken under their wings, a whole population finds itself pinned down to the ground – as Eritrea finds itself now.”
Comment: A scholar can achieve degrees after degrees but one remains useless to society and a parasite as well if the knowledge is only advertised on the living room walls through well framed certificates without positively affecting the society in relevance. Capsulating knowledge within the self is a terrible thing to do. Interesting is that useless intellectualism is a heavier burden to society than anything else can ever be because a given society, the universe at large pays dearly to educate an individual to PhD level of the academic stratum (probably more than 20 years in time and millions of dollars in expenditures). One can then imagine the waste and the parasitic relationship between a quietist scholar and the society/societies that molded one to be scholarized. The universal investment on a quietist intellectual produces zero output or sheer uselessness in this situation.
To make it worse, opportunist scholars in a given society always serve the oppressors becoming part of the collective social problem. The parasitic relationship intensifies in this situation from uselessness to dangerousness because opportunism as such does not stop at uselessness point of the relationship but also explodes against the society by serving the enemy at the brain level of its system. An opportunist scholar should then be the heaviest burden of society for simultaneously attacking it with the lethal curse of uselessness and dangerousness.
Yosief: “In a rather haunting déjà vou scenario, the going away and the coming back of the ghedli generation had the same structural similarity in their superfluity that makes us question the relevance of the time in between. When they went to Sahel, they went armed with their urban elite experiences (that “modern” attribute they thought essentially distinguishes them from the Other) but found no use for it in the new environment; instead, they had to do everything through sheer brutality to stay relevant. In the process, whatever “modern values” they had cherished before gave way to new values acquired at mieda. That is, temekro muhur had lethally metamorphosed into temekro mieda, with superfluity as the enduring common characteristic that ties them both in their deep family resemblance. Thus, when they reentered Asmara in triumph, they came back armed with the most superfluous attribute that would find no currency at all in modern day Eritrea: temekro mieda. And here is the crux of the matter: both temekros could be sustained only by rendering the ghebar invisible – a precondition for the brutalities to follow.”
Comment: Brilliant and interesting summary: It just seems like the Eritrean people have been sandwiched between the two seemingly inappropriate applications to their concrete realities: temekro muhur during the struggle andtemekro mieda after independence. The two temekuros like you put it very well appear similar in contradictive relationship with the two Eritrean realities in their respective eras; the ultimate result on the society being exactly the same in quality: misfit and destructive! The other constant element in your analysis of this topic was that the two misplaced theories had to be implemented by violence. Violence is the only means of implementing a misfit ideology in society as you clearly taught it in your magnificent work, meaning that the Eritrean people twice suffered the liberators’ violence as the consequence of said gedli generation’stheoretical and practical flip-flopping in inverse relationship to their realities in the respective eras on discussion.
Yosief: “As in the case of the Russian gentry, the “liberators” adamantly refused to adapt to the new reality because it would require giving up their privileged status. Instead, not only had they been trying to do everything through temekro mieda, they went as far as attempting to recreate it nationally in the form of national service. The sheer incompatibility of temekro mieda to modern day Eritrea, one that has brought the nation nothing but one monumental disaster after another, is a result of this strange belief that this epiphenomenal experience could accomplish miracles on its own. “
Comment: The concept of liberation was all together misplaced for strictly territorial independence in view of the leader/s of the struggle while misunderstood for having been for freedom and democracy in view of the people. Liberation starts right at the home base within the liberator’s inner individuality. How can a confined individual liberate others? A person that is not mentality free cannot understand the meaning of freedom nor can one cause the freedom of others. In so saying, individualism is the most obvious symptom of a confined mind and Mr. Afwerki failed to secure freedom for Eritreans because he is a chronic sufferer of the syndrome: too precarious a man to himself to hardly help other human conditions in his environment.
I believe your detailed work on the golden age of Asmara, Asmara and the Gedhli generation, and Interrupting Asmara’s growth, were outstanding in quality. I was surprised how detailed you infiltrated into the elements that constitute your highly educational material. You have a special capacity of delivering so much information in exceptionally compressed volume, extraordinary talent in creative-description of subject matters needless to say that you have defined a reference mark for philosophical excellence, in my opinion. I appreciate and thank you for sharing your mind with us Eritreans in such a fearless and intellectual fashion. I was even more fascinated by your analysis inPurifying Asmara based on the relationship between the Khmer Rouge and the Shabias in villagizing the city by sucking out the elite class to SAWA for ultimate refugee life and between North Korea and the Shaebias in changing its demographic face making it the home of predominantly women and PFDJ members. Your input was an excellent effort that clarifies a lot of complex issues about our predicament. Although the entire content of your article was important I found the following worth repeating here for people to briefly understand what has been going on. People who read the article can bypass this portion.
Yosief: “Purifying Asmara: No government has done a better job of the displacement policy than the Khmer Rouge of Cambodia. The total empting of the capital city – with more than two million inhabitants – within a day or so after their arrival was mainly motivated by the fierce hatred and resentment the Khmer Rouge guerrillas had developed for ghebar while they were “struggling against the oppressor” in the bush.
The Eritrean situation has never gotten as bad as the Khmer Rouge’s mainly because of the country’s porous borders19, but the anti-intellectual drive, and the venomous spite against ghebar that goes with it, that sent the Khmer guerrillas on a rampage to empty entire towns and cities of their inhabitants is the very same drive that made Shaebia empty the cities and towns of their youth. The entire youth population has been systematically emptied from the cities and towns and cordoned off in “mieda” under the name of national service; and, in due time, defending the nation and developing a “self-reliant” economy are meant to turn these internal exiles into the next generation of “Shaebia men” – all trademarks of the Khmer Rouge.
The question of purity doesn’t only deal with those targeted to be evicted, but also with those selected to remain in the city. Looking into this purification process, it would be revealing to check the inhabitants of North Korea’s capital city, Pyongyang, for that is what Asmara is increasingly looking like. Two of the demographic groups that mainly make up the population of Pyongyang are party members and women. The similarities with Asmara are rather striking.
Similarly, let’s ask: where are the adult men of Asmara to be found? They are either in the national service serving the army or outside the country, in refugee camps and beyond. “
Comment: Wow!
Yosief: “The coloinial mind of the urban elite: Sometimes I think that Asmara has done more psychological damage than good to the Eritrean elite, given that all their sense of betterment came from owning that city and all their revolutionary zeal from wanting to be the sole owners of that city. If so, that by itself would have been enough to trace the colonial mind of the ghedli generation.”
Comment: Very interesting thought entertainment! It seems to me that Asmara was taken by many Eritreans as a symbol of civilization compared to other societies and specially the Ethiopians. Before we knew it, something fallacious was installed into our psych in relation to beautiful Asmara as if we made it ourselves. As time went on, we grew believing that we constructed a better city than the rest in Ethiopia and framed a comparative psychological reference to all others based on this imaginary theory by which we cased in point as the most civilized people in the region and the continent at large. That is where we faced the contradiction between our assumption of the self (society) and reality.”
I also think we used Asmara as psychological defense mechanism against Addis Ababa which was growing at a faster rate. The imaginary Eritrean superiority to the Ethiopians was unconsciously radiating through extreme urge of eternally keeping Asmara better than Addis. The psychic connotation behind the urge for Eritreans to signify their importance vis a vis the Ethiopians through Asmara’s betterment than Addis was an interesting reality to confront because I was one of them. Although most of our people were modest enough to never have been affected by this complex psycho-phenomenon, I think it was very visible on those that lived highly exaggerating the essence of Asmarino and undermining the rest based on. The concept of Asmarino at a point in the experience appears having had the tendency to discriminate or to at least undermine the entire Eritrean population for backwardness (This may be common in many societies).
What we proved after independence was that we could not even keep the resources we inherited from colonialism forget about developing them ahead. We actually deteriorated everything inherited in Eritrea from education and economy to technology at home court: One inherited university gone and one inherited beach (Gorgussom) barely surviving. In the contrast, what the educated member of the society in Diaspora proved was even more troublesome to me. It was actively participating with remarkable conformist determination to the fronts during the struggle for independence but so inactive and terrified it has been in this resistance for freedom and democracy.
Our performance after independence proved that Asmara as a city and the rest of Italian made Eritrea do not represent the Eritrean reality in terms of capacity and maintenance. We still have to show that we were capable of leading a healthy nation as the fruit of our independence through our own home based development instead of through the colonial legacy in Eritrea. Sadly, we did not get the chance to challenge this predicament because of the unexpected absolute dictatorship and we are not working hard to reverse the situation Out scholars with all their capacities could not collectively take a project and put a transitional formula on paper, something the least they could, to the disgrace of the Eritrean society. I hope they will do it from now on but the motion is still very slow compared to the time sensitive Eritrean situation.
Yosief: All that I have been trying do in this posting is to remind readers that life in both urban and rural Eritrea was normal before it was interrupted by ghedli, thereby attempting to debunk the great lie that the ghedli romantics have been feeding the masses: that the case of Eritrea is that of colonial oppression. “
Comment: Colonialism as something related to the Eritrean experience had been an over exhausted subject matter by both Eritrean and Ethiopian elites since the start of the Eritrean struggle for independence. This subject cannot be precisely figured out. Any intruder is a colonizer to me, immaterial what others may call the situation. It is not a direct phenomenon that can be mathematically answered or proven. I think colonialism is effectuated mainly due to capacity to finance it and to hold it by force which both the Italians and the Ethiopians had in relation to Eritrea irrespective of their difference in race, technology and treatment of the people under control.
The concept is open for philosophical entertainment by any thinker. Back in the days, the Ethiopian students’ movement lived trying to categorize whether the Eritrean question was colonial or national. To me it was both, though of course the topic is beyond this discussion which I did in detail in my book (the curse of being and living it). The fact remains that it does not matter anymore 23 years after the Eritrean independence was actualized and in front of its universally accepted sovereignty. The unique African experience, the Southern Sudanese independence needless to say totally over justifies the Eritrean independence that was caused by European colonialism at the root point of the matter. The Southern Sudan independence is to date the only exceptional happenstance in Africa: evolution of a society to nation hood through the foundation of a NATIONAL question. This was so because the former Sudan was colonized by the British as a whole piece and thus the southern part succeeded from the Sudan without the conventionally understood colonial justification (associated with the Arabic Sudanese) merely on the basics of NATIONAL QUESTION. This is unprecedented in Africa if I am correct.
Yosief: “Paradoxically, it is the ghedli generation that has been displaying all the characteristics of colonists – that is, starting from the very Cause itself, not as caused by colonial oppression but by colonial inspiration. If there is anything that could define colonialism as it occurred in Africa and elsewhere, it is the fact that it was an unparalleled interruption in the way of life of the colonized people. “
Comment: To me, conditioning the Eritrean political system under the Ethiopian monarchy by itself signified Ethiopia’s daily interference in the Eritrean life of the time. We were forced to learn Amharic as a national language and Ethiopianized in very controversial circumstances. We were made to tax to the Ethiopian central government and our ports utilized by the Ethiopian navy and shipping lines needless to say that the people suffered a lot as the consequence of the struggle which you tried to see in isolation from its root cause, Emperor Hailesselassie’s interference in the Eritrean socio-political life. The struggle would never have taken place at least in its actual form and focal point without the Ethiopian interference in the Eritrean society’s private business. We may never have experienced Afwerki’s dictatorship without the root cause of the struggle which was Ethiopia’s imposing contact with our society. The truth remains, however, that we suffered more intensely under this regime as you clearly put it with convincing authority. The Gedli generation is a colonizer in view of the current Eritrean situation. Colonialism cannot do worse damage in any society than what the Shabias did to our society.
I believe the Eritrean question having been colonial or national is outdated as a result of Eritrea’s nationhood. The argument has died out without concrete resolution 50 years after the confrontation between the two camps (national or colonial) as a consequence of the Eritrean independence which is legally actualized forever. I don’t see any advantage in discussing these issues at this stage in our experience where the independence has completely closed the topic leaving it for historians and social scientists to write books on ahead and the Ethiopians accepted our sovereignty without any visible complication.
In philosophy’s realm of the spirit there is no objective certainty and no confirmation. Communication is the path to truth”, said Jaspers; whatever the truth may be relative to the particular conditions that cause its existence. The truth in this situation being whether the Eritrean question was colonial or national.
The question of right and wrong or that of true or false is so elusive, it can force one into conscious or unconscious breaching of other people’s perceptional territories. At the bottom line, however, there is no such thing as objective truth or reality in the socio-philosophical spectrum of life for no human nature can measure a concept or an outlook in pieces: it can only deal with it through elucidations or subjective truth. The moment we freely exhaust all possible constants and variables of something without bias to our individual opinions we have relatively reached the best limits of absolute truth only in relative scale in that regard. The fact remains that subjectivity cannot always represent objectivity nor can it be fully expressed by a person’s individual feelings and preconditions for the universe does not revolve around an individual’s concept of reality. Objective reality is achievable by arresting individual interest in favor of universally valid standards. No subjective outlook focused on making objective impact can succeed without appreciating the notion that human beings react to different situations differently by natural fabric. Arguing about whether something is true or not does not change the real nature of a subject matter in examination for nothing satisfies everybody else equally. “People may keep looking for the right answer, but there is no right answer. Everything is relative rather than absolute. That is the answer”, says LAMA SURYA DAS in Awakening the Buddha within.
What I think is that philosophy as open ended phenomenon has never had and can never have a precise answer. Human beings have never completely agreed on a concept that cannot be empirically proven, they only compromised. No one can prove whether the Eritrean question was colonial or national with absolute authority for the terms themselves cannot define the associated reality in complete format. But every commonsense can agree on a reality that materially projects itself in concrete existentialism. We cannot deny the existence of a rock displayed in front of our eyes nor can we deny that Afwerki was the president of Eritrea. By the same token, no one can deny the sovergnity of Eritrea immaterial whether its question was colonial or national. What matters most is what we need right now to have a better society and how!
History must locally move forward positively impacting a society for further universal impact which our immediate priority in our case is democratizing the country and then moving on forward resiliently confronting whatever may come in the way in relation to the continental development as a family with all other African societies (Pan Africanism, Regional Integration, etc.). Right now, however, everything including our history is secondary to our freedom. We need to concentrate on our immediate priority TRANSITIONAL GOVERNMENT TO DEMOCRACY full-fledged ahead because this challenge is our concrete reality leaving our account overall for social scientists to write books on for future generations.
In conclusion, the momentous universal truth is that there is a dire need to clean the so said Gedhli temokro poison replacing it with a normal society that conforms to the sociopolitical and technological realities of the universe through the power of intellectual intervention. There is an independent nation called Eritrea suffering from the worst form of absolute dictatorship that needs the immediate attention of its intellectuals to transit it to democracy irrespective of what the cause of its struggle for independence had been. There is a nation called Eritrea that must independently move on forward from here on immaterial what happened in the past with external forces and regardless of how it achieved independence.
Our concrete reality is that there is a big role brother Yosief Gebrehiwet can play if he pays attention to our suggestion: Designing Eritrea’s transitional formula to democracy based on the Accra Peace Accord that transited Liberia into democracy. I am asking you with maximum humility to join me in the development of the transitional formula with other highly educated Eritreans currently contemplating on. I am appealing for your phone call as soon as possible so that I can share what I am trying to do with my fellow compatriots and put your extra ordinary intelligence into effect to energize it into the next level of resistance. Please call me at 202-702-3977after you first text me so that I can respond immediately.

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  • don't give up April 17, 2014

    Dear SARA

    I think Y.G. idea about Eritrea is : ”Eritrea can’t stand alone as a Nation” so! if Eritrea is not able to be a Nation, in which Eritrea do you believe Yosief Ghebrehiwet will be the first democratically elected president?

    • Sara April 18, 2014

      Dear Don’t Give up,
      Y.G supports Eritrea to continue as a nation. He believes that Eritrea is a poor country and without supports of other nations it would be difficult for Eritrea to stand alone as a nation. So, what makes Y.G. unique in regard to this is that he knows Eritrea very well and as a leader he will do everything that he could to fix the nation, and make Eritrea a competitive and a respected country by its neighborhoods and at the international level, as well. Remember people who don’t hide their illness are smart people and that’s what Y.G. is.

  • Meretse Asmelash April 17, 2014

    Are we all derailed? I think we all need to take a deep breath. The question is clear and simple; YG is invited for a clarification about the article he wrote lately.

    I’m not sure if this is always true, but when every man opens his mind to subjectivity ( his thoughts freely) most likely he becomes a target for destructive forces.

    It would have been much better to listen to YG’s arguments rather than throwing rocks at his shadow. Today our country is in the hand of a False Prophet and it is governed on his prophecy of evil.
    Read this:- “ሜጀር ጀነራል ወዲ ሃብተስላሰ፣ ንኢሳይያስ ኣብ ሩባ ምስ ረኣኹዎ ኢየሱስ ዝረኣኹ ኮይኑ ተሰሚዑኒ” source demo.archive.assenna.com Imagine this guy (ሜጀር ጀነራል ወዲ ሃብተስላሰ) is still telling the Eritrean people Iseyas might not be Jesus but he is very much a replica of him.
    In this dire situation Eritrea is in need of a strong man/woman who fearlessly faces the situation until there is no evil to face.
    Bear in mind, howling alone will not send a committed man/woman into deep silence, for so Let us give a chance to each other.

    • rezen April 17, 2014

      “Are we all derailed? I think we all need to take a deep breath.”

      Greetings! Meretse,
      To answer your question:
      a)Yes, we are all derailed;
      b)Yes, I agree, we need to take a deep breath.

      Already there are 62 commentaries on a straight forward question that Fetsum raised.
      Now, we are talking about YG, thus Fetsum’s idea seems to be left on the side.
      In asmarino.com where YG’s article was posted, there are 72 commentaries and every one is free to comment upon it there for ever and ever…….
      Why don’t we concentrate on Fetsum’s proposal, here? Are we not going around and around in a “circular motion”?

      • Genet-orginal April 18, 2014

        Dear rezen
        “In asmarino.com where YG’s article was posted, there are 72 commentaries..” Is this mean you like what Fetsum is trying to do, which is to engage YG and the rest of us in a productive discussion. Not only discussing issues for the heck of commenting and discussion, but to come up with measurable outcomes, in order to answer the burning questions of “NOW WHAT?” At this point of our lives, most Eritreans would agree, it doesn’t matter how we got here. Instead, what matter is where do we go from here? YG, Fetsum, you rezen and all the others productive Eritreans educated or not, owe the current and future generation brave actions for change. Answering the question of “NOW WHAT?” is a life and death question. Well rezen, I will look forward to hearing from you, in tackling the “NOW WHAT?” question as well as Fetsum’s proposition, for YG to get involve in the future plan.
        Thank you
        Genet-Original

        • rezen April 19, 2014

          Gretings! Genet-Original
          You have a piercing sense of humour! Putting me in the league of YG is the greatest joke. But you know what? I felt good! I am only human. But. It is good, that somehow I have a natural gift of knowing myself; knowing my limit; with no desire for pretension; and if I learn something from others I say so and give them credit openly. That is all I am. Thank you, in any case.[1}
          Now to YG: It seems everybody wants to speak about YG, putting aside Fetsum’s clearly enunciated proposal to discuss “ Designing Eritrea’s Transitional formula to democracy based on the Accra Peace Accord that transited Liberia into democracy” with a clear invitation to YG to help him “in the development of the transitional formula”. It can’t be clearer than that. Instead, over 80 commentators have devoted themselves to sideline topics, polemics, insults, flattering and more flattering – and YG (in his absence) became the centre of the drama to the delight of some extremist detractors for their own hidden reason. The main question raised by Fetsum was completely disregarded. It should be noted here that no reader is obliged to comment on any topic that he/she reads. With this background, however, it is then safe to assume that the proposal is as good as dead. And inviting YG for a “dialogue” has no meaning other than a show for hungry commentators for laugh and insults.

          Are Eritreans really serious about asking “NOW WHAT” or is it one of the multitude of jargons that appear on the Internet? One commentator (a few years back) reflected this sentiment when he said that all his articles are fully recorded in the Internet for future ‘testimony’ — when NEW Eritrea is established, and accounting would be made of ‘who was who’ {i.e.writing} during this ‘struggle’ period! Pathetic.

          The question of “NOW WHAT” is not new. It has been in the minds of Eritreans ever since they woke-up from their sweet dreams to realize that Eritrea was just a “Paradise Lost”. We have seen a multitude of oppositions and civic organizations [about 35 + 50 respectively] rising-up presumably to answer the same question: “NOW WHAT”. It is a perennial question without any meaning, anymore. And now, the whole burden — the key to the illusive question — is being placed on one simple human being – YG, albeit a true scholar. It is not going to happen. Our friend Fetsum, in his untiring effort, tried the same approach with a recently emerging firebrand and with another renowned intellectual. Nothing visible happened.

          One cannot help musing whether Eritreans in totality are really serious to face and accept their inherent problems and devote their energy to create a nation for the benefit of the people as a whole, realizing that there will never be an ideal society and civic governments. One wonders too whether the Eritrean people inside the country have any confidence at all on the seriousness of the Diaspora Eritreans who — to the envy of their unlucky compatriots – are well secured, safe and tranquil in the richness and peaceful environment of their new adopted countries. But they are the source of remittance >>> the conclusion is disheartening. In the process of all this, according to the UN, 2000 to 3000 Eritreans are flocking out of the country PER MONTH taking unimaginable risks so familiar on world-wide news media –including multitude of Eritrean websites. I have a question: Do Diaspora Eritreans have the foresightedness and capability to establish effective and focused Civic Organizations in their respective localities, communities, cities, states, countries around the Globe to help their own young immigrants from Eritrea and not helplessly rely on other countries to do their responsibility? I know the answer and have an opinion as to the “WHY”. I raised the issue in my paper as a result of Fetsum’s untiring invitation to me (can you imagine!) for a “Dialogue”. There was no follow-up action, which didn’t surprise me.
          THE END

          Footnote
          [1] I remember you giving me A+ for writing but 0 for content! Ouch! A good Samaritan was imploring upon you to give me a chance ; but you kept responding by these words: “none of your business” — and the guy kept repeating his plea and you held your ground: “none of your business”! I had a great laugh with a friend on that one, honestly

          • Genet-orginal April 21, 2014

            Dear rezen
            I read your comment on good Friday and I couldn’t help it to smile about it the whole weekend. It is not because your comment was particularly funny, but the fact you pulled a footnote on me was very funny. I may not be sure about what topic I was responding, when I gave you “0” for content. I am sure, it may had been something to do how you addressed the Eritrean people in general. It could be your intentional PR sabotage or you are too smart to relate to the average Eritreans.

            Reg YG, It is only natural for people to talk about the man YG VS his message. However, it would be a tragedy, if well intentioned people are sidetracked from the main message. It is the responsibility of intuitive people like you to keep us in line with love. You said, ” The question of “NOW WHAT” is not new” No body said it is new. However, this question never addressed fully for Eritreans. Hence, our situation is worse than it has ever been. Since this important question is not solved, it will remain NEW. It is not a “jargon” as you described it. I am not sure, why you think it is a “jargon”? Is it because you think the issue is a concern of few intellectuals? To me, that is why some times you have difficulty relating to the ordinary Eritreans as YG does. YES, I am talking about “PR”.

            You said “One can’t help musing whether Eritreans in totality are really serious to face and accept their inherent problems and devote their energy to create a nation for the benefit of the people as whole, realizing that there will never be an ideal society and civic governments” Is that what you think, Eritreans are aspiring for “ideal” society? Eritreans are not looking for ideal of any thing. You need to work on your PR, when it comes to the Eritrean people. The Eritrean people just want, reasonable responsibility and action from any Eritrean who is capable of understanding what they are going through and help them, without judging or alienate them as if they are freaks of nature.

            Reg. Diaspora Eritrean, I agree with what you said. But things can be different with effective PR.
            Forgive me,if I am out of line. Thank you.
            Genet

          • Genet-orginal April 21, 2014

            I read it on Saturday. Thanks.

  • ahmed saleh April 17, 2014

    Our people were derailed long time ago to give
    a go ahead authority to one man power of rule.
    The timing to blame Gedli which rested 23 years
    is laughable which doesn’t make a sense .
    Not to offend nobody but it is true that we try to
    distance ourselves from responsibility of our failure after the so called beloved leader the lion of NAKFA manupulation dump the people like useless stuff .
    Either YG or others who start nowadays whining about Ghedli let them cry like babies
    but Godspeed the people on the other side with
    the will for change will manage to fight the good
    fight .
    In respect of Amanuel Iyassu join his call for unity and workable measurements .
    Topics from other sites should stay where they belong and we can join their discussion .

  • Genet-orginal April 18, 2014

    Dear Fitsum
    Thank you for bringing the topic of YG and his insight about Eritrea.
    Sorry, but like every body else, I have been huffing and puffing about YG’s stand or lack of stand. I call him the “Notorious YG”. About his work, I have a mixed opinion. While I appreciate his blunt way of truth telling campaign, I am puzzled how he put all the Gedhli’s generation in one small box. I am not sophisticated as he is, but I have a decent common sense. Reading his thought process, left me to say, OK I got it. Gedhli messed up. Now what?

    From Fitsum’s article, first paragraph, “Yosief, Given the 50 years of hell they they have gone through…the Gedhli generation superfluous to the society, is their adamant refusal to adapt to the emerging reality…. they were willing to go through hell in order to stay “relevant” through irrelevant attributes any..” My question for him is who are “Gedhli generation” who refused to adapt to the emerging reality? If he is going to demonize all Gedhli generation, then that is wrong. If he knows the inside story, how Isayas came about to monopolize the Gedhli and post independent power I would like him to say so. If he can refer me to his past work regarding this, I am willing to go back and read. Correct me if I am wrong, but the Eritrean people were supporting Gedhli from the get go. We have many real life history, even prior to the 1940, our people were terrorized by Ethiopian outlaw and leaders. So, I disagree with his assertion that Gedhli was started by a few overzealous “Asmerenos”. YG seems to paint the rosy outlook of Eritrean while under Ethiopian. I am a proof of Eritrean who were emigrated to Ethiopia as a child. The mass emigration of productive Eritreans to central Ethiopia, after the 1960 was done deliberately. I don’t think YG address that issue at all. If he did, I am willing to go back and read his work.

    YG’s work, in telling us the truth about what went wrong in Gedhli era and the failure of transition to civil society, is great. But there is some thing messing from his work. Now what? What is the current generation supposed to do? Is YG with the current generation in our struggle for survival? Or is he himself stuck in the Gedhli generation era? Is he trying to stay relevant as the non functioning Gedhli generation?
    Thank you
    Genet-Original

    • fetsum abrahamt April 18, 2014

      Hi gennet;
      u have valid questions that should be answered if possible. Everything couldn’t have been messed up and I don’t think Yosief takes that position exclusively. I feel like there is an unheard part of his story that we will enjoy in the process of this brotherhood!
      Ganni: Now what?
      That is the question we must answer now and that is where this brilliant brother will come to assist. We have developed a very good connection with Yosief through this forum and hopefully we will engage in exchange of ideas on his 2010 material that some people are suggesting here for us to read and feel. Both of us are in complete harmony no matter how the shallow individuals think that we were competing. I am working on his material now with my limited capacity with one thing in my mind: to involve this brother fully in the development of a democratic formula because I know we will be powerful on this if he appreciates this idea. Life would have been different for us if he accepts the request for this assignment. Should he feel Otherwise, we will move on always respecting and loving the brother and supporting him all the way. Thank you Gennet for being an outstanding component of independent mindedness. I can tell you that your contribution is getting more effective and to the point and so is your articulation. Thank u again my dear

      • Genet-orginal April 18, 2014

        Thank You Fetsum
        I agree with your point of bringing YG’s work to our discussion, would help us to know more and understand his work. I would like him to advise us about the question of “Now What?”
        Thank you Fetsum for your hard work toward the democratization of our country.
        Genet

        • fetsum abrahamt April 18, 2014

          Genet and meretse;
          communication is the only path to solution and I am sure my brother YG welcomes decent communication on his work. That will give him the chance to give and take, to teach and compromise with other ideas so that we can all benefit from saving our society through flexible and transparent groupthink. I want to learn from him like I have been doing from you collectively. We will face some problems here and there (misunderstanding) with few insecure and emotional individuals afraid of freedom of speech and independent mindedness but we categorize the intelligence of YG a lot higher than that to only expect a very decent and educational dialog in this forum and beyond. I expect a practical leadership from the brother as destiny has brought us here for a difficult spiritual mission beyond my expectation.
          We will all win at the end of the day.I feel dignified to have the opportunity of exchanging ideas with him because of your continous participation that helped me pursue this very exhausting trip with relative patience and hope. You (genet, Meretse, etc) are my beautiful family who made this forum successful and effective. Hopefully we will soon bring a precious solution out of this effort and celebrate it together somewhere with my music in the background. How does this sound to you? Optimistic or what? may be naive? I don’t know for sure but i am very excited of the opportunity more than any other time in my experience in the resistance.
          Thank you

      • Meretse Asmelash April 19, 2014

        Thanks to your kind words. At the same time, I thank you for your unexpected articles yet important. Your articles are opening our minds or at least giving us a clue to know what have at hand and what we are missing. I like the way you put it: “let us communicate”
        Another way demanding communication quote:

        ናይ መን ሸፊንካ ናይ መን ክቕላዕ
        ናይ መን ከዲንካ ናይ መን ክብላዕ
        ናይ መን ደርቢካ ናይ መን ክስራዕ
        ናይ መን ተኪልካ ናይ መን ክስላዕ

        ቀጥዒ ይረከቦ’ዚ ቅሩብ መኣዲ…… “ናእሽቱ ደምና”/Little Clouds

  • Meretse Asmelash April 18, 2014

    This is what I like about calming down. At times we might not be on a perfectly straight line to get us from point A to point Z, because life has full of surprises. What seems very bad at a given time can indeed turn out to be very good in the end. In the past we have survived tremendous difficulties but together we were able to hit our primary target. If we approach our problems with the right attitude there is nothing that stands against us. To come to the point we should never be afraid of any idea which is written or said otherwise; be it by an individual or by organizations. Let him, her, them- spill it out.

  • rezen April 19, 2014

    Preamble: If we insist of talking about YG instead about Fetsum’s idea of: “Designing Eritrea’s transitional formula to democracy based on the Accra Peace Accord that transited Liberia into democracy.”, then here is my piece about YG.

    Subject: YG Needing PR?

    Really? This is new! But first is first: who is YG?

    1. Yosief Ghebrehiwet,
    Yosief Ghebrehiwet is an Eritrean, a thinker, a writer and a true intellectual before this particular word [“intellectual”] unfortunately fell into disrepute, thanks to modern day by-passers who go by that name without a blush. Yosief Ghebrehiwet, by his incisive mind; mastery of the English language; and Cartesian philosophy, has demonstrated an independent mind — rare in a society where independence of the mind is frowned upon. Yosief Ghebrehiwet wrote numerous dissertations on so many subjects [perhaps 25 scholarly papers] – all having Eritrea as the centerpiece of his message. No Eritrean writer has ever gone deeper, relentlessly and wider on the sociopolitical and cultural aspects of Eritrea than Yosief Ghebrehiwet. This is not adulation — it is a fact. One of his memorable moments was the issuance of his immortal article entitled Romanticizing Ghedli by which he awakened Eritreans to the reality of their Eritrea. And he went on deeper and deeper relentlessly so that Eritreans would face the ugly past (no matter how hurtful that may be) and espouse, with pride, dignity and determination, a new refreshed and free thinking and life about their future and their country. In short, he goaded Eritreans to ask a refreshing question: WHAT IS OUR INTEREST?

    2. Detractors
    But, Yosief Ghebrehiwet had, and still has, his detractors who went to extraordinarily great length to discredit him; to damage him; and to alienate him from his compatriots for their own selfish long-range agenda that has been brewing, seemingly for time immemorial. Unbelievable as it may seem, such a destructive attitude is just simply based on a narrow parochial prism – a characteristic of an underdeveloped society. Fortunately, there is a distinct movement of Eritreans – rising by the day — who see the light of the day and refuse to be intimidated and cheated, thus determined to forge ahead to realize the NEW Eritrea worthy of the memory of those young gallant Eritreans who sacrificed their only precious gift of Life based on their noble thinking – not being aware of the invisible human leash that dragged them to hell in the first place. One hopes, the fact that the whole generation of Eritreans was cheated through emotional movement shall be taken as a reminder and invaluable historical lesson for the betterment of generations of Eritreans to come.

    3. Public Relation (PR)
    Yosief Ghebrehiwet needs no PR. There are those who struggle for the limelight by any means available. Yosief Ghebrehiwet wouldn’t even be the last on that line. A TRUE writer’s PR is his/her own written words. A true writer needs no temporal, useless, artificial glorification. Neither would Yosief Ghebrehiwet. To assume that a true writer would be goaded by such flattery is simply demeaning to the concept of literary work – and unworthy of any serious person who thinks in that term. Great writers devote their entire Life not for glory or richness but to make their best contribution in the advancement of humanity to the “mountaintop”. In this global spirit, Yosief Ghebrehiwet is one of the great writers.
    THE END

    • Genet-orginal April 21, 2014

      Dear rezen
      You are missing the most important point here, have you realized the miles and miles of educational gap between YG and the average Eritrean? I think not. The argument is not about YG’s higher education and sophistication, but his limitation to reach many Eritreans. He tells Eritreans what “they” should do. Then he adds, what ever Eritreans try to do to survive without Ethiopia, they may not make it. He doesn’t see how hurtful that kind of sentiment is to our People. He is victimizing our people all over again. I read his article, “Romanticizing Ghedli” You said through his article, “he awakened Eritreans to the reality of their Eritrea” rezen, with all due respect, the majority of Eritreans who lost so much, have been in agonizing and ongoing insomniac state of mind for 50 years. Because YG compiled their experience in his articles, doesn’t mean he awakened them. I find his articles to contain this estranged theme of he is not part of it. He is like a bystander just telling the story of unfortunate group of people. The detachment of YG from his people is so pronounced, he turns people off.
      When I say YG needs PR, I meant well. PR (public relation) is not only for people who seek glorification, but for people who want to make lasting impact on other peoples’ lives for the better.
      Genet

  • Hagherawi April 20, 2014

    YG is controversial guy who has written a lot about the Eritrean Revolution without having seen it even for a day.
    His writings are a very sophisticated narrative with no substance. When ex-tegadelti read his analysis they quickly realize that his writings have very little relevance to the reality. They have no doubt that his effort to de-legitimize the Eritrean Revolution is part of attempts by some [those not comfortable with the new reality or with dubious identity] to turn the clock back, [using a window of opportunity offered by the brutal dictatorship as best as they can].

    Some of YG direct and indirect messages:

    – Eritreans are Habesha but not Eritreans [which is a manufactured identity].
    – Lowlanders’ only issue is religion while Highland elites suffer from a colonial mindset.
    – Eritrea is an artificial country and cannot stand on it’s own [without being part of Ethiopia].
    – Ghedli was about cheating poor peasants to go to war for a cause which is not their.
    – Eritreans under Hailesellasie were far better than other Ethiopians.

    For YG Ethiopia seem to be the center of universe. She is the mother of all Habesha (who according to him are all Christians). A Christendom from which all draw their Habesha identity. His Ethiopianist mind doesn’t see that Tigre speakers in Eritrea and Sudan are also Habesha, and that not all Habesha have to be Christians or Ethiopians. He never mentions crimes committed by Ethiopia against the people of Eritrea. His silence on this issue shows that he doesn’t feel comfortable to speak about it [Does he feel the occupation is justified ?, may be].
    Although he does not state it very clearly, because he thinks it’s not tactically correct to say so, he is against the very idea of independent Eritrea and that puts him in the category of enemy of the State.

  • Merhawit April 22, 2014

    Hagherawi,

    may i add: and indeed an avowed enemy of the people. It is high time Yosief Gebrehiwet should be put to the acid test to determine how and why he has been poisoned by the mysterious cocktail called ERiTROPHOBIS. Should we call our land Habeshistan? Maybe he’d get cured?

    Genet, nice to hear from you. And – Happy Easter, after the fact!

  • Merhawit April 22, 2014

    Hagherawi,

    may i add: and indeed an avowed enemy of the people. It is high time Yosief Gebrehiwet should be put to the acid test to determine how and why he has been poisoned by the mysterious cocktail called ERiTROPHOBIS. Should we rename our land Habeshistan? Maybe he’d get cured?

    Genet, nice to hear from you. And – Happy Easter everybody, after the fact!

    • Genet-orginal April 23, 2014

      Merhawit
      Thanks sister
      You too. hope you had a very nice Easter
      Genet

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