HERE AND THERE: Dedicated to President Afwerki’s said grandma Medhin
HERE AND THERE Dedicated to President Afwerki's said grandma Medhin By Fetsum Abraham • • REMINDER •
HERE AND THERE
Dedicated to President Afwerki’s said grandma Medhin
By Fetsum Abraham
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• It so seems like people are reading the articles and responding as well but the way we are communicating does not make sense for the most part. This forum should help uniting us by being tolerant to other ideas and it should not separate us at all. People differ in opinions and they must be respected for it. We can not reject ideas and abuse people because we do not agree with them. That is what we are trying to change in Eritrea. Our success in having freedom at home depends on how tolerant we are with each other. We need to check out our ego and humbly accommodate all ideas if we can. That is the concept of democracy and we should apply it if we genuinely fight for it.
• The issue boils down to why we want change in Eritrea? The answer may be to democratize the country and to be governed by law. To have a neutral justice system and a Constitution. If this is our political philosophy, we must practically live the philosophy.
• At minimum, democracy means tolerance of opinions; to respectfully challenge ideas with ideas. In my observation from the responses to my articles, some of us have the tendency to read something between the lines and conclusively attack someone by assumption. We need to stop doing this because it does not help our goal. Try to take the words as they come and stop picking negative stuff out of them to assault others based on how you interpret them. This is the president’s style of communication. Mr Afwerki has in few occasions personalized questions in publicized interviews. He, for instance once accused the Aljazira Journalist of serving the interest of the west when she asked him questions related to democratic election, prisoners, and the refugee crisis in our country. She was just doing her job professionally but he called her a messenger of the CIA and abused her in public. This practice is against the concept of democracy and we should stop following it in favor of standing for our rights to express our individual opinions on anything. We can not have our thoughts respected while disrespecting other views for this is like having a cake and eating it too: asking for justice from the international community while killing it at home! I bet this sound familiar!
Further, you can not fight for the cause of democracy if you dwell on HAIMANOT and AWRAJAWINET. You are actually serving the dictator if you do so. That is what Afwerkism wants you to do by deliberate national policy. Please refrain from this destructive energy that does not help the progressive mission in the ground at all. There is one concept of Eritreaness: to be part of that society by blood or by concept. When one bleeds of injustice in any Eritrean region, all Eritrens from all ethnic groups should feel it as a family. The only reason Eritreans achieved their independence is because they challenged the problem together as a family. Our diversity is the strength of our united nationhood. We can not achieve anything good in Eritrea fractured with religious and ethnicity oriented mentality. Remember that you are heading on to a democratic society and you shall get ready for it practically: let us promote democratic values by communicating in a democratic fashion! Ignore those who infiltrate to provoke division based on religion, ethnicity, etc.: please do not miss the focus, which is a UNITED FRONT that comprises different ethnic backgrounds, outlooks and beliefs.
• Another disappointing interaction in the forum aims at preaching the notion that the president was a non-Eritrean who was grand-mothered by a woman called MEDHIN BERAD. I found this extremely uncivilized and annoying folks! because it takes a lot of positive energy out of the real issue on the ground; a reckless effort against the democratic cry of the Eritrean people that gives Afwerkism another day of life. We have to be civilized if we say we were fighting for a civilized government. Accept Afwerki as an Eritrean because he is one. Where is the beef otherwise? Do not waste time and energy on this garbage because you can not change that; nor can you convince people that he was not, needless to say that it does not matter at all. The question is not his identity but his unacceptable leadership. Attack the problem directly without diverting the issue. This should be the case in dealing with all the people in his political circle in my opinion. I do not know about you but to me, the Kishas, the Monkeies and all other individuals in the government are Eritreans by historical and circumstantial objectivity. Please try to focus on the Eritrean quest for freedom and constitutional rights in order to expedite the answer.
• Further, Afwerki’s grandma has nothing to do with what her grand son chose to be as a person. She is after all an innocent sufferer of the pain induced by Italian and Ethiopian colonialism respectively in terms of Racial and Ethnic Apartheid like all Eritreans in her generation: a sufferer of Afwerkism, an equally destructive socio-political philosophy that denied her people the freedom of peaceful survival in the mother land like the colonizers vis-a-vis her generation.
Folks; the tragic downfall of Afwerki should have caught his family by a melancholic surprise. They should really be disappointed by how he turned out to be more than the ordinary Eritreans. The brothers and sisters in the family must be metaphysically disturbed about his situation, at least in my opinion. I feel sorry for them from heart for losing the opportunity of enjoying their brother’s anticipated progressive leadership with maximum respect and love from the people forever. Unfortunately, life does not go according to the plan; the president sadly cut it short for them and of course for all of us. Afwerki disgraced his siblings and they deserve sympathy and love rather than abuse. They are Eritrean victims of the system like all of us in the family, ladies and gentlemen! Please be careful with your words my fellow Eritreans! you do not want to hurt a broken hurt. Stop insulting them through the terrible expression for the sake of compassion and fairness.
• There I see another disaster in this style of addressing an individual. By calling the dictator “WEDI BERRAD” you are undermining your intelligence and insulting our poor people who make a living through the profession of KUMIRINA. KUMIRINA is a job that poor East Africans are circumstantially conditioned to do to support their families. There is nothing wrong with this folks! and you should stop this negative attitude towards our people specially the hard working mothers. They did not chose to be KOMARO for heavens sake! they were forced to be by unfortunate causes and effects of survival. REMEMBER that you are trying to change the economic situation of our people through this resistance and you can not contradict the mission by rejecting our people based on economic class. Grandma Medhin, assuming she is real is our mother like any other Eritrean mothers. She deserves love and respect from all of us.
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In the mean time, I feel sorry for the innocent grandma abused left and right by some irresponsible Eritreans. I feel sorry about the unprovoked assault of the users of the expression against the poor woman who has nothing to do with Afwerki’s spiritual decadence. I feel sorry for Afwerki’s brothers and sisters who share her for a grandma to be in this terrible situation because of their brother. You can not pretend fighting against poverty in your country and contradict yourself by doing the opposite; nor can you challenge it by humiliating its victims. You need to live your outlook practically if you want to make a difference in the society; with all respect to you my dear Eritreans! You are exposing your grandmas for abuse by abusing somebody’s grandma. In light of my humble appeal for respect to humanity; grandma Medehin has become my symbol of compassion to abused people without provocation like Dawit Issacc has been the icon of my resistance against Afwerkism. It is with this vision in mind that I decided to dedicate this little input to our innocent mother Medhin.
wedihager February 8, 2013
Sir,
I accept your opinion one by one.. but, what do you think DIA has in mind when he elected the Kishas, mOnkeys, the Ali Abdu, The Chariles intentionally all these years ? Does he have that inferiority complex becouse he came from the tigrean origin (almost 100&)? Is he making us pay all these things bcs he grew up being called ata agame ? and the questions goes on and on. I sometimes use the wedi medhin berad when I get so frustrated of his deeds. I think it hurts him more than calling him a dictator. People (including me) of Eritrea are not very well educated and they use these words just to take out thier frustration.
I would use it if it can calm my pain. The bastard might have that mentality of ” a confused bastard” who intentionally does things bad to hurt the society that he grew up.
Make an analysis more on his kind of people where they live and grow in a small, concetrated society where literacy level is high and poverty is rampant.
I admire you always, and I read your article one by one. Bravo million times
T. Kifle February 8, 2013
Dear Wedihager
What makes you think the 100% Tigrean origin makes him suffer from inferiority complex?
Asgedom Abraham February 8, 2013
Perhaps Wedihager is a confused wedi Tor-serawit the size of a dwarf.
wedihager February 8, 2013
Tekle (manjus)kefle
100% tigrian is a fact, but only few accept it as an orginary, normal origin, but guys like your DIA are full of confusion bcs they grow up in a stict, small society where they were called ata agame…. go and ask geza geniha, the elederly ones, they will tell you how many the DIA was called iti agame, they will tell you where his complex came from
Asgedom Abraham February 8, 2013
Wedi Tor-serawit, keep inventing lies.
issayas is a V*A*M*P*I*R*E February 8, 2013
Hgdef leaders are all agame. you blind follower .
Asgedom Abraham February 8, 2013
Vampire,
If you want to believe your own lies then you have a big problem.
Asgedom Abraham February 8, 2013
How do you explain that the likes of you starting with Tesfa-Alem Meharenna are more close to Mekele than Asmara?
wedihager February 8, 2013
Asgedom, may you are close to Mekele that Alem Meharena… may be your origin is pushing you to say habal beliya keteqedmeki…kkkkkkkkk… guys were getting hidden under the umberella of the shabia membership… nomore my friend, we shall see soon…kkkkk… many of you will go with wedi medin berad to you know where
Asgedom Abraham February 8, 2013
You Woyane dogs are very funny.
zemen beraki February 8, 2013
But the Isaias wedi medhin betad are even funnier because you believe not in the land and the people but in brutal dictator!!!!!!
Asgedom Abraham February 8, 2013
Zemen,
We do believe in the land and the people of Eritrea. We support President Issaias Afeworki Abraham because the President supports us.
issayas is a V*A*M*P*I*R*E February 8, 2013
You are a woyane dog because hgdef=woyane
Asgedom Abraham February 8, 2013
Vampire,
What makes you think so?
Tes February 8, 2013
Dear Fetsum,
I think our people has been extremely suffered under the rule of Iseyas. They We love him with out any condition and what we get is living hell in earth. we are dissolution and frustrated. We forced to doubt him and start to do soul searching. How can an Eritrean do such appalling thing upon his fellow Eritreans unless he is not part of them. So logical you have to ask yourself Who is he? Then we knew he is not part and parcel of Eritrea, he is just happen to be in Eritrea when youth were going thousands to Meda ( ghedli). In fact he is not an Eritrean and he has another aim to join the arm.
We know now and he had bad upbringing with all negative atmosphere. And here we are getting the result. I completely disagree with you what word we
should use or we should not use. He is wedi Komarit. Which means she didn’t get time to teach him right from wrong. There is nothing wrong with that.
fetsum abraham February 8, 2013
Tes;
I understand ur point and I agree where the problem came from but it is too late to reverse the course of history. We can change the situation by focusing on the main goal of the struggle. Name calling is rude and immoral. We need to control our emotions.
I love u
selam February 8, 2013
“…..to be governed by law….At minimum, democracy means tolerance of opinions; to respectfully challenge ideas with ideas….can not fight for the cause of democracy if you dwell on HAIMANOT and AWRAJAWINET…”
selam February 8, 2013
“…..to be governed by law….At minimum, democracy means tolerance of opinions; to respectfully challenge ideas with ideas….can not fight for the cause of democracy if you dwell on HAIMANOT and AWRAJAWINET…”Ato Fetsum, You have said it all. God bless you.
Halafi Mengedi February 8, 2013
Abraham, I mean Fitsum.
I agree with you that many (perhaps including myself) of us have over time developed a specific style of argument:abusive ad hominum arguments. You stated a good example about the Interview Afeworki had with Aljazeera.
Nevertheless, what do you mean when you stated in your article that I do not know about you but to me, the Kishas, the Monkeies and all other individuals in the government are Eritreans by historical and circumstantial objectivity..
1. What do you think others say about “the kishas, the [Monkeys]”?
2. You stated …Eritreans by historical and circumstantial objectivity.. Let me take a shot at this. I understand this to mean that all those individuals working for the government are not Eritreans by birth? Forgive me if I am reading between the lines. 😉
p.s.: All the emphasis are mine. Emphasis are done for illustration.
Have a fine day. Got to go back to work
Zelku_dea February 8, 2013
Halafi Mengedi,
“…Abraham, I mean Fitsum….” kkkkkk, nice one. I liked that. This dude loves to refer the President as “Afwerki”, for whatever reason
Asgedom Abraham February 8, 2013
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fetsum abraham February 8, 2013
Dear halafi Meged;
Thank u for asking and let me answer briefly;
“I do not know about you but to me, the Kishas, the Monkeies and all other individuals in the government are Eritreans by historical and circumstantial objectivity.”. What I mean here is that the guys whether from Tigrai or not are representing Erirea at government level of the issue. It is too late to reverse history: the fact that they have represented Eritreans for so long and still representing us. We can not win fighting then through ethnicity; we can change the situation by means of substance: they made too many mistakes that they can not survive from if we do it right. We can use all these weapons in a universally acceptable manner rathen than dwelling on ethnic politics. I MEAN THIS IS MY OPINION BUT I DO NOT KNOW URS: U CAN TAKE WHATEVER POSITION U WANT. that is what I mean;
1) “What do you think others say about “the kishas, the [Monkeys]“?”
I think some people say that they were Tigreans.
2. “You stated …Eritreans by historical and circumstantial objectivity.. Let me take a shot at this. I understand this to mean that all those individuals working for the government are not Eritreans by birth? Forgive me if I am reading between the lines.”
My answer is close to ur guess but slightly different. all those individuals working for the government may or may not be Eritreans by birth; better defines my position,
Thank u very much
issayas is a V*A*M*P*I*R*E February 8, 2013
Fetsum you are absolutly wrong. issayas is not an Eritrean. Like HITLER wasnot GERMAN.
Both issayas and Hitler hijacked a Nation to downfall and unimaginable suffering.
Asgedom Abraham February 8, 2013
Issaias Afeworki Abraham comes from a noble family in Tselot which gave birth to the likes of SOLOMON ABRAHAM and KIDANE ISSAC .The latter helped resuscitate the Eritrean railway line. Mr Issac the brother of Mr Abraham, the grandpa of President Issaias, was murdered by Tor-serawit together with four other memebers of the family.
wedihager February 8, 2013
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk LORD HAVE MERCY…. WHAT A NONSENSE…EVEN THE DICTATOR WILL NOT ACCEPT THIS EXCSUE… ASGEDOM DO YOU WANT TO CREAT A NEW HISTORY TO THE DIA…HHHHAHAHAHAHAHHA
Asgedom Abraham February 8, 2013
Wedi Tor-serawit,
You do not know Eritrea.
zemen beraki February 8, 2013
You can not invent history. Isaias’s grandpa came to Eritrea after he killed someone in Tigrai. He lived a miserable life in Tselot. Dejach Solomon who was the governor of Wello is his son and was killed by the Dergue as a reactionary with the sixty hailesellaasie dignitaries in cold blood. You must know that Isaias is 98% Tigrian. But this is not the problem it is only for the record. It is Isaias’s nefarious aim of destroyin Eritrea that we opposse.
Asgedom Abraham February 8, 2013
Zemenino,
That is not true.
Asgedom Abraham February 8, 2013
Miserable? The man built a school in his home village Tselot.
fetsum abraham February 8, 2013
Zemmen;
I as a person would not get into numbers such as the percentage u provided unless I can prove it with substance but you hit the point well when u said that “But this is not the problem it is only for the record. It is Isaias’s nefarious aim of destroyin Eritrea that we opposse”
Thanks
fetsum abraham February 8, 2013
Issayas;
Can you prove this with substance and convince the world that he was not an Eritrean? U see my brother, he may not be Eritrean as u believe but he is represnting ur country as a president and as Eritrean. The truth and the emotions do not matter here because the practical experience is that an Eritrean is running the country. U can not win against the world on this issue therefore use ur other tools to change the situation. they have made mistakes they can not come out from that if we use them smartly we can get back our society the way we want. Look at the bigger stake rather than a short time excitement.
Be diplomatic!!!
TNX
Zelku_dea February 8, 2013
Dude,
Gradually, you will come to your people – you will see the light. And you will understand what group you are in. Gradually, you will realize that, these group, sure they shout and claim they satnd for “justce” “democracy” and all the text book staff,but you will eventually see for yourself they don’t have a clue as to what they are saying. They are just using those terms as a tool to hide the core reason (God, there are millions of personal reasons that have nothing to do with democracy or justice)as to why they are doing what they are doing. The main reasons can be catagorized as :
– Vendetta,
– Hate of the president – blind hate,
– deep rooted hanger for power,
-subordination(To Ethiopia and Ethiopianism),
-Unionist tendences – based on economical benefit, marital situations, confusion and greed.
Now, I told you like a million times not to throw words or terms for the sake of saying them or with out thinking. For instance you said
“….Further, you can not fight for the cause of democracy if you dwell on HAIMANOT and AWRAJAWINET. You are actually serving the dictator if you do so. That is what Afwerkism wants you to do by deliberate national policy…..”
When and where did the government or Issayas used Himanot and Awraja for his purpoce? if you are saying this to please your group, it is ok, but – you ahve to have some sense of truth when you say something. Let us see:
1. The people at the leadership position in the Eritrean government constitute both Muslim and Christians. Actually most of them are muslim. Generals, Army leaders and all are there irrespective of their religion.We are taling in a broader sense – Christina and Muslim sense. Where is the religious division here?
2. Sawa – is a good place that Eritreans from all over the country get togather. it is a place you meet, know and come to understand your fellow country person – from all corners of Eritrea. Isn’t that a blessed thing? isn’t that a nobel thing? doesnt that contribute to develope tolerance between people? equal treatement? . During Derg times, people in the cities of Eritrea, knew more about Ethiopians than about Eritreans in the lowlands, or further away from the cities. People knew more about Ethiopian cities than any place in Eritrea.
3. One of the worst awrajaned which was developed during Hailesslassie and Derg – is the one Between “Akeleguzay” “Seraye” and “hamassien”. This division was mostly magnified outside Eritrea. Eritreans in Ethiopia, and other foreign countries had the tendencies to use that cheap, un neccessary classification. In Eritrea you don’t see much of that. On top of that, to eradiacte the sense of Regionalism and also to strengthem the Unity of Eritreans, the Government did a new classifications of areas in Eritrea – a broader sense Zobas, instead of the usual , akeleguzay seray, ahmasien etc classification. These classification – holdes more people. At least the intention was noble. The government did not magnify the old awrajawnet. So what the hell are you talking about?
Again – when you write – think!
Again – Address the president as “President Issayas Afeworki”, don’t just say Afweorki. What the hell does that mean?
Asgedom Abraham February 8, 2013
Fitsum Abraham is using the famous rhetorical technique. You mention something and you do as though you haven’t mentioned it. It is like someone saying to Fitusm: I wouldn’t say that you are a pro-Woyane awrajawi blinded by hatred towards the president.
fetsum abraham February 8, 2013
Zelku;
Ur intimidation does not work with me as a person or in this country called the USA. I am an American with full right to express my views like u do in this forum. Should u challenge me with rteason, I may learn something from u. Should u want to go another way, though I will be in your face using all my rights in America.
U wrote: Now, I told you like a million times not to throw words or terms for the sake of saying them or with out thinking. For instance you said
“….Further, you can not fight for the cause of democracy if you dwell on HAIMANOT and AWRAJAWINET. You are actually serving the dictator if you do so. That is what Afwerkism wants you to do by deliberate national policy…..”
Answer: U don’t tell me anything if I do not want to listen to u. Who the heck are u to tell me a million times the way u expressed it with emotion in the statement. U need to be civilized and humble. This is not Eritrea where u can scare people at. This is America and I rather warn you to be careful of your intimidation.
o to impose /
from you
keimy
fetsum abraham February 8, 2013
U also said
“Again – when you write – think!
Again – Address the president as “President Issayas Afeworki”, don’t just say Afweorki. What the hell does that mean?
Reply ↓
Answer;
Dictation does not work and address ur president the way u want and I will address him the way I want. Go slave for him if you want; I am not like you; i take my freedom and don’t expect it from anyone. You can not say what u said with out very shallow understanding of democracy. This is my last word to u because I will completely ignore u next time u make a fool out of ursef in this forum!!!
fetsum abraham February 8, 2013
Zelku;
U also said
“Again – when you write – think!
Again – Address the president as “President Issayas Afeworki”, don’t just say Afweorki. What the hell does that mean?
Reply ↓
Answer;
Dictation does not work and address ur president the way u want and I will address him the way I want. Go slave for him if you want; I am not like you; i take my freedom and don’t expect it from anyone. You can not say what u said with out very shallow understanding of democracy. This is my last word to u because I will completely ignore u next time u make a fool out of ursef in this forum!!!
The SAWA stuff u put in can test how far u believe in it. would u send ur kids there to prove that SAWA is good for the country? Can u go there urself and serve in SAWA or anywhere in the country? If u can not do either, u are a hypocryte opportunist who can not be trusted for anything.
Zelku_dea February 8, 2013
abraham(aka. The dude with the funny hat)
oooooh, did I hurt you? poor boy. Intimidation? nah! that is not the intention here. This is your house, this is the house of the number one “Anchiwa Nay Woyanie”(ssssss, don’t tell Amanuel Eyasu), how can I intimidate you here, dummy!
Here is the deal. I got to break it down to you here. Here we go:
First the positive aspects of you and why I am specifically commenting on your articles (I don’t comment on articles of dead meats – if you must to know).
1. You seem to have some kind of genuine interest or project some pride on your Eritreanism. And whatever weakness you project seems to be comming from your ignorance of Eritrea and some cultures inherent to the struggle – something you know naturally if you were in Eritrea.
2. Some of the comments and advice that you give to people could easily be applied to all Eritreans. For instance – telling people to distance themselves from Awrajawnet, Kebilanet, and Religion fanatism – is good, and applies to Every one. Actually – any one who doesnt read the rest part of your article would make the mistake of catagorizing you with HGDF and all the hagerawyan(kkkkkkkk) as it is the moto of the Government to get rid of such trash habits. But, you seem to be short of information as what the strong sides of the Eritrean government are. I sense that you suffer from lack of information. Good heart, but empty brain. kinda. (That is not an insult – empty as in no real information regarding Eritrea – in that brain, that is).
3. There is something that differenciate you from the rest of “Cadres” who write(preach) articles here or post trush and call it news. You see, I would not bother to comment on what the biggest anchiwa nay woyanie (aka. Amauel) says or does – he is officially and openly declared that he is “Woyanies Bitch” if you would excuse my french. You can call him “Mutanta nay Woyanie” if you prefer that. Or just call him “Anchiwa Woyanie”…and he will come running to you.
4. You don’t seem to know very well the group you put yourself into. I am sure you will gradually know them. Realization in small pieces. Like the one you picked about Religion and Awrajawnet. All I can say is – you seem to be lost.
NOW TO THE FUN PART.
1. You always throw words or sentences that seem to be out of place. And it is easy to tell that, in the middle of writting your article, you woke up and say lik…”oh I supposed to insault the President”, or “i am supposed to trush PFDJ”. But, to your disadvantage, you don’t seem to know the Eritrean government. Nor the Eritrean people, for that matter. Because you seem to pick the strong side of the government to insult. You see, you can not accuse the Eri gove for not defending and standing for Eritrean sovereignity. You can’t accuse the Eritrean government for narrow regionalism and Religious divisions. You can accuse the Eritrean government for not trying to unify Eritrea. That is what it does best!. At least, as far as intent goes, the Eritrean government is first class in those regards
2. You tried to unify the useless people who call themselves Opposition (0.1%), not to be narrow minded – for the purpose of fighting and defeating the 99.9% Eritreans (Part of which is the Eritrean government). You see the irony here? the reason the 99.9% are against you is the very reason that – you are narrow minded, Vendetta driven, religious fanatics, and regionalists – who has never had Eritrean interest at heart. GET THIS ONE: THE ERITREAN GOVERNMENT IS STILL STANDING(21 YEARS, NOT COUNTING THE PRE INDEPENDENCE ERA)IS BECAUSE THESE 99.9% ARE SEEYNG SOMETHING GOOD IN IT (AT LEATS ITS GOOD INTENTS) AND ARE PROTECTING AND STANDING BY THEIR GOVERNMENT. THIS IS A SIMPLE FACT – BUT YOU HAVE TO GRASP THAT. There fore, sticking staff to the Eritrean government, some things that are not true – will never never resonate with the Eritrean people. it will only flush your credibility down the drain
3. Back to the “SAWA” thing. Now, you see how your mind is clouded? do you see how you jump from one topic to another – just to serve your argument. Let me clarify this for you. It all started by you accusing the President issayas, as playing religion and Wegenawinet, right? I told you that is not true. To justfy that, I brought Sawa as an Example. So, Sawa is mentioned here in the context of “Religion and Awrajawnet” that is all. As a principle, Sawa is where all Eritreans above 18 years of age pass through. ALL ERITREANS LIVING IN ERITREA. ALL the 9 Ethnic groups, irrespective of their religion, race, kebila or awraja – pass through sawa. That means – Eritreans from all over of Eritrea meet, otherwise they might not have the chance to do so. In that regard – Sawa is a place where you meet your fellow Eritreans. Got that? You said you are from USA, right? SO, IF I ASK YOU WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU OR YOUR CHILDREN GOT THE CHANCE TO MEET AN ERITREAN SAHO? OR AN ERITREAN AFAR,RASHAIDA, KUNAMA….NARA…ETC? FORGET ABOUT DEEPLY ASSOCIATING WITH THEM ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND EACH AND EVERYONE’S CALTURE. So, in that sense – SAWA is doing its good share in unifying Eritreans
Got that?
Zelku_dea February 8, 2013
Correction:” …You can not accuse the Eritrean government for not trying to unify Eritrea….”
Asgedom Abraham February 8, 2013
” Eritreans in Ethiopia, and other foreign countries had the tendencies to use that cheap, un neccessary classification. ”
You are talking about awrajawnet in the context of sdet. The same context applies to Akeleguzay awrajawnet in Eritrea because they consider moving from their awraja to other awraja, say Hamassien, as sdet and the peopole around them as guana.
Asgedom Abraham February 8, 2013
” Eritreans in Ethiopia, and other foreign countries had the tendencies to use that cheap, un neccessary classification. ”
You are talking about awrajawnet in the context of sdet. The same context applies to Akeleguzay awrajawnet in Eritrea because they consider moving from their awraja to other awraja, say Hamassien, as sdet and the people around them as guana.
Zelku_dea February 8, 2013
No, I am not talking awrajawnet interms of Sidet. All I am saying is Awrajawnet was worse or used to be reflected more outside Eritrea. The point I am making is showing this Fitsum guy – haymanot and Awrajawnet had never been a tool or scheme the Eritrean government applies.
This Fitsum guy, doesn’t seem to have any clue about Eritrea and those at the leadership position. Or at least he doesnt have a first hand information.
ruth February 8, 2013
One of the founders of the modern State of Israel was asked ‘WHO IS AN ISRAELI?AN ISRAELI IS A PERSON WHO SAID I AM AN ISRAELI”The same goes with an Ertrean.Who ever want to be called an Eritrean except who want to be one.There are full blooded Eriteans who fought and died for Ethiopia ;and also proud of it.Example BEREKET SEMION who fought fo more than 17 years in the field against the Derg and still a very prominent hero and a patriot and an Ethiopian by choice.Likewise Isaias,Hagos,2Yemanes,and others they believe and choose the Eritrean citizenship with their free will;therefore we should accept them as one.
Asgedom Abraham February 8, 2013
Ruth,
Eritreans are Eritreans . They do not have to choose for the Eritrean citizenship. If Eritrea were to break up the first part that will be claimed by Tigray will be Akeleguzay.
Tes February 8, 2013
Zelku-dea,
A paid agent of HGDEF. What a difficult job you have mate. You are all over the web sites defending undefinable. Go to your comfort zone Meskerem.net rather than wasting our time here. You are useless cheap person trying to act as advocate of justice. How dare you are to tale us what democracy mean when you are a staunch supporter of the most repressive regime in the world. got –los.
Asgedom,
If you are one of those Deki Arbia don’t worry you are safe in Eritrea but don’t insult others like Tesfaldet who is from the center of Eritrea and the oldest family in Eritrea. You better shut up.
Day of racking is approtion fast.
Asgedom Abraham February 8, 2013
Center of Eritrea? Is that Kelbi Woyane from the center of Eritrea?
Tes February 8, 2013
Asgedom,
I told you to shut up wedi Arbia!!! Day of reckoning is coming soon see you then. Woyane are loins they are doing great for their people.
Asgedom Abraham February 8, 2013
Tes,
Woyane are your family. I am not surprised to read that you consider them as loins.
If you ever come to Asmara we will deport you to the loins. Let them eat you or do something else with you. Wedi Meharenna, shortly after the death of his beautiful wife, went to Tigray to be consoled by his family of loins in Adwa and Mekele.
Zelku_dea February 8, 2013
Abrham,(oops!, I mean fitsum or whatever, the dude with a funny hat,
Here is a case in a point. This is what this fool that goes by “Tes” said: “…Tesfaldet who is from the center of Eritrea and the oldest family in Eritrea. You better shut up……”
Multiply this dude by some factor (Pick the factor) and you will get assembly of fools who call themselves “opposition” Lord have mercy! Do you see how narrow and fanatic this Tes dude is? Mind you, you hear him say “Democracy”, “Justice”, “Eritrea”, “Dictator”…as if it is his second nature. If you think these people are Eritreans to depend on, well we are in a deep shit! but, hey – wait a minute – we already have a government who stands for its people! we already have a government that stands for Eritrean soverieignty – so, why would any one bother for subordinates of Woyanie? who cares about Anatsu? anatsu of Woyanie, at that?
fetsum abraham February 8, 2013
Tes;
Can u imagine this guy called Zelkiu trying to intimidate me here as if this is Asmara? This people think they can get away with terror and even try it here in the west. I was surprised brother!!!
Tes February 8, 2013
Dear Fetsum,
Don’t waste your time answering to Zelku . He is paid agent of HGDEF and this is his job. As for intimidate HGDEF is searching hiding place let alone to intimidate you or me.
I am proud of you Fetsum just keep up the wonderful work.
Zelku_dea February 8, 2013
Abrham,
(oops!, I mean fitsum or whatever, the dude with a funny hat,
Here is a case in a point. This is what this fool that goes by “Tes” said: “…Tesfaldet who is from the center of Eritrea and the oldest family in Eritrea. You better shut up……”
Multiply this dude by some factor (Pick the factor) and you will get assembly of fools who call themselves “opposition” Lord have mercy! Do you see how narrow and fanatic this Tes dude is? Mind you, you hear him say “Democracy”, “Justice”, “Eritrea”, “Dictator”…as if it is his second nature. If you think these people are Eritreans to depend on, well we are in a deep shit! but, hey – wait a minute – we already have a government who stands for its people! we already have a government that stands for Eritrean soverieignty – so, why would any one bother for subordinates of Woyanie? who cares about Anatsu? anatsu of Woyanie, at that?