Fetsum: ZEYTERFELKA GASHAS ATSEBIKA SAAMO EYUTINEGER
Fetsum: ZEYTERFELKA GASHAS ATSEBIKA SAAMO EYUTINEGER Question of the moment: Quote of the moment: ‘I have decided never to dominate or be dominated by external mind, only to learn from and coexist with it. My outlook of nature
Fetsum: ZEYTERFELKA GASHAS ATSEBIKA SAAMO EYUTINEGER
Question of the moment:
Quote of the moment: ‘I have decided never to dominate or be dominated by external mind, only to learn from and coexist with it. My outlook of nature is my life that I will never compromise for any personal advantage or imposed philosophy. I have an independent mind: I am a universal human being without ethnic identity and religion that neutrally radiates my subjective views with no intention to convince or dictate‘
Message of the moment: “I don’t think it is right for [anyone] to tell people to stay away from Wedi Vacaro. You do have the right to ask what they have to offer to Wedi Vacaro’s movement. Wedi Vacaro needs every Eritrean with good intentions to help him. Wedi Vacaro is doing no other oppositions ever tried to do. That is speaking directly to Eritrean people. When one speaks to others, that means he/she is open to ideas as well. I don’t believe challenging Wedi Vacaro’s movement on issues is going to hurt this promising movement. I believe only a movement with hidden agenda will be afraid of well intended challenges. More ideas will lead to solve more problems and cover more grounds. It is like doing brainstorming to find good solutions.” Genet
From the Forum:
Genet: “Dear Festum; about the two points you pointed out, I found #1 to be most essential for the survival of Wedi Vacaro’s unity movement. The magic idea is to have “centralized body”. To have participant held accountable via updates and reports of work progress. Some people may say, “centralization” is like doing things like PFDJ’s leaders. I disagree. Because common sense tells us centralization can be used effectively to prevent a movement from braking apart. I believe, all these oppositions and youth movements could use centralized body to prevent from coughing up splinter groups all over the place. The #2 point Fetsum pointed out is very important as well. Accepting the formation of “Transitional Gov” should be a reality for all oppositions. There is no other way to have a hold of this madness of movements, explosions. All political oppositions should be encouraged to participate. “
Response: Yes Genet, a brilliant analysis as usual. Bob Morley said;”emancipate yourself from mental slavery” in favor of INDEPENDENT MIND! I appreciate your independent mind and agree with your “centralization” theory 100%. He needs sub-centralized hubs that work under a high level centralizing body that checks and balances the activities of the committees to make the movement effective. Performance evaluation and progress report, plus future plans and assignment distribution to members of the committees and their respective community elements available to assist: all these need a statistically efficient centralized infrastructure by creative and capable individuals as you pointed out very well. How else do you do this then? A Transitional Government is however the only tested solution to the current Eritrean situation and its zeal for democracy.
Meretse Asmelash: “We understand that no one can change the past. I believe we can face the future by acting what is right today. In this case- based on your experience, knowledge and understanding you have every right to advise anyone, be it a leader of movement(organization), youth, grassroots, ….you name it for only one purpose; WE DO NOT WANT TO MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE AGAIN. No more green light for the rat or rats. By now, we should have learned a good lesson from the wisdom “prevention is better than cure” and I hope the good old doctor (Wedi Vacaro) is listening to your advise as well as to the valuable comments. We are part of his good movement and he needs to pay attention to the outer circle too. At present time could see so many locusts in nature flying here and there with PAINTED BUTTERFLY WINGS? Did hear their whistle as they fly around “WE ARE THE BRIDGE”? Really? Since when? This is why we should all stay vigilant. “
Comment: Cleverly articulated and I agree: our bitter past experience should serve us to do the right thing this time. The brother’s independent mind says that we need to protect ourselves before we get sick again and spend the rest of life searching for medication from outside. The protection time is right now and the type of mind that does the magic is the INDEPENDENT: we will continue the struggle accordingly. The fact remains that any mass based movement must be ready to communicate with the people and answer questions as they come. You cannot sleep on people’s questions and assume representing them because you are required to answer every question and deal with anything that comes at you. You can’t lead a movement and keep quiet on the questions of the people: this is the Shabia way of doing things that we don’t want to experience any more. This was the biggest problem of the opposition forces and you know how badly they lost the people. Vacarro must become transparent because failure has always been the fate of organizations that ignore the concerns of the people.
Zufana: “Brother Fetsum: I would urge you to keep communicating and also to be on good terms with brother/father Vacarro’s movement please.”
Response: Dear Zufana, you have nothing to worry about this and trust me that we will not make a mistake here! I relate to Wedi Vacarro as my role model of love and compassion for me to ever wish him the best in this hard road to unity. That is why I discuss him here with all of you participants. I can never have any reason to be in bad terms with him and whatever I freely discuss here has nothing personal to do with this beautiful and hardworking brother. This does not mean I have to blindly follow him though for there is no relationship between my independent life and the brother’s movement except common interest on the Eritrean dilemma. Ideological coexistence is the issue here as far as I understand and we will certainly peacefully coexist because I support him from the heart.
The best way we can express love and respect for him is making him aware of our honest observation about his movement so that we may use its foundation as a ladder for future democratic Eritrea upon correction: and the best way we can hurt his movement is denying him information on what we see through silence or falsely patronizing him for any personal reason there may be. It hurts to see him fail like many other promising movements in the past: I want to see my brother act immediately to filter out his movement before it blows away with the wind! I believe we are communicating with him together through this forum and I hope he reads us: I am in very good spiritual terms with him but there is no mind for me to stagnate and no time to waste because life must move on! I have been like this for a long time my dear Zufana and you can see this concept of my life from the many articles I have been writing before the brother came across our lives. One of them says: “Experience has thought me never to worship and blindly follow any party that claims representing the Eritrean people. It has taught me to be careful about individuals and movements and to peacefully challenge them using the principles of genuine democracy. I will continue to use my inherent freedom of expression to the fullest of my capacity without any prejudice and fear.”
Kifle Nerayo : “Dear Fitsum; Eritreans’ Unity has been elusive. All [movements] could not succeed because not mainly by disunity, but also by lack of setting the means and end clearly. I mean to assist and encourage you in your responses that setting the objective is of paramount importance to our quest for unity and strength for persistent work on dislodging the dictator and save our people and country. I see the end of the tunnel to our unity through the elements displayed by Vacaro. Please bear with our ignorance and helpless comments and persist tirelessly to your perceived course of actions. Thank you, brother.”
Response: Brother; you said something interesting in the highlighted portion of your wisdom. I and few other activists in the forum believe this assessment is correct: nothing so far is available in writing or clear explanation and the setup as we see it today remains obscure because of this problem. There is light at the end of the tunnel no matter what and everything will be okay but we need to face reality to be in a better position in this struggle for freedom in Eritrea.
Further, there is no ignorant and helpless comment that I can ignore because no such comment comes out of human commonsense unless intentionally processed with a negative mind. Every commonsense has its own unique potential that can uniquely affect society in the long run. I cannot do anything without your ideas and yours was brilliant: It impressed me enough to share it with people here in the forum.
In accordance with our discussion, rationality states that you don’t kill a dying regime before you clearly define your future unless you don’t mind condemning your society to another long follow-up suffering. You repair the problems of the resistance first to guarantee everlasting peace in our society if time allows it to be. Removing the walking dead regime is not the current Eritrean challenge in my opinion because it has already committed suicide; organizing a transitional government before its departure is. Then who? Has a good answer, which is any Eritrean can do better than this parasite as long as elected to serve by the people. Then what? Is the question we must prepare for! We don’t want a fragile unity for another dictator to take advantage of and ride the horse alone like they stole our freedom taking advantage of our conformist unified struggle for independence. In so sharing, every individually organized force in our society is a potential recipe for dictatorship by default probability (I am not affirmatively saying they are) but only if one rejects unity for democracy or left unorganized under a common umbrella for transitional government most preferably before post-Afwerki Eritrea.
Further; none of the existing opposition forces under the leadership of former EPLF fighters can use Vacarro’s past attachment with the regime as excuse to hurt his struggle for unity for they themselves brought us this dictatorship by direct participation in the front and also because most Eritreans including myself rallied behind EPLF before and after independence until our respective points of departure down the road. I have heard this contradictory argument from individuals in the opposition groups and it does not make sense at all. You don’t throw rocks at any one from behind a glass door position!
Some of the opposition forces in my long observation have a problem with unity and therefore our weakly bonded forces in the EDA could not produce all inclusive unity. It is clear that external interference is necessary to temporarily unite them all under a transitional government for democracy: that interference is the INDEPENDENT MIND of the society!
As it stands, the Vacarroian movement appears neutral (independent of the opposition forces), the reason it was expected to be the best place to start for us towards that objective. It will have to be better organized with the best minds of the community, however, in order to succeed and emotional support alone cannot help it without rational input. Our effort should then focus to help Vacarro not though unconditional flirtation but through constructive confrontation.
Tripping out on my brother’s movement my mind contemplates the following idea. According to Physics, it takes lesser energy to have a moving body keeping on moving than moving a body at rest because the first has momentum and the second does not.
Momentum = Mass X Velocity, (Mass being the weight of an object in motion and velocity being the DISTANCE the mass moves per TIME)
I believe everything in nature is mathematically related no matter how abstract it may seem to be: so do the Vacarroian movement and its momentum!
Analogically speaking;
Vacorrian Momentum = The unity Movement X Its Activities, meaning that the momentum of the movement depends on its forward motion through concrete activities.
As you know the effect of the movement was strong in all freedom loving Eritreans and the momentum was promising at the time he was actively touring with his new idea in the US. I hope it is as such in many places. But momentum does not exist without motion or significant follow up activities because it depends on it. I of course can only talk about DC where I live: The movement in DC is now motionless and there is zero activity. Plugging that into the formula,
Vacorrian Momentum = The unity Movement X Activities = The Movement X (0) = 0
Mathematically; the movement’s momentum is zero in DC. I don’t know what is going on elsewhere but there is nothing visible here in DC and the movement only exists in theory. The fact remains that there is immediate homework for his team to fix here in DC before the momentum touches down for good because once he lets it go this way, his movement will naturally die out soon: we humbly remind our brother to understand this consequence because the issue is time sensitive (it has already been close to 4 months since our brother left us with hope and nothing after). Every day passing unanswered takes something away from the momentum and this should be obvious to all of us from experience.
I can only pray for God to help Vacarro expedite the effectiveness of his movement in this direction before TIME neutralizes his movement but we should not wait for repair idly. We just cannot do more than this remotely!! Our independent mind must continue making us more creative without depending on any movement. For us, life moves on and we will continue using our autonomous intelligence and spirituality to serve our people with our limited capacity!
Let us build a close relationship between us: let our number inflate for others in the resistance to feel our presence and give independent minds a chance to involve. The harder we work as a family in this project, the better chance we have to settle on a comprehensive philosophy of unification and the sooner we can present our collective case to our people. Awareness on the concept of genuine democracy is important here: Our success rate depends on how honestly well we do our homework academically because the cleaner in this aspect, the stronger we can unanimously challenge unity-defying forces in the opposition camp behind substantial international support.
At the bottom-line, there is only one concept of DEMOCRACY and no room for any opposition group to misunderstand or change it without intention to dominate power illegally. There is only one road for a society to move from dictatorship to democracy: Transitional government. Sooner or later, Eritrea can only be democratized via this road map because it is the only bridge humankind knows going from dictatorship to democracy. How long it will take us to make it is a good question to ask but ZEYTERFELKA GASHAS ATSEBIKA SAAMO EYUTINEGER. There are different sociopolitical ideas, however, that our opposition forces can freely adopt to help our society but the people must have the ultimate right to choose what they want through democratic election from here on. The unification movement should dispatch from this fundamental understanding of building a peaceful and strong nation ahead, hopefully we will soon better understand Vacarro’s movement if this was the case or not. Yet, we should continue organizing ourselves for whatever academic challenges our struggle may face from the all inclusive resistance in the near future.
You don’t want to enter Asmara without at least starting this preparation because neither Vacarro nor you can stop whatever may take place in the country including civil war in this situation. Eritrea cannot help being a stage of unpredictable confrontation for power between the existing thirty something organized groups with all of us involuntarily recycling our remotely observer status for ages to come if the brother lets this opportunity slip away without concretely reconfiguring his movement! This makes it necessary for the collective independent mind to organize for checking and balancing our political situation ahead but only if we develop our relationship closer.
This unity drive is double sided: it serves the society for ever in our proposal’s condition or terribly jeopardizes it otherwise. Now is the time for us all to leave no void for being taken for a ride again. The lousier and porous we unite without clear objective beyond overthrowing the government the better the ambitious forces in the opposition camp with hidden agendas take advantage of our efforts to dictate political power by force. Remember that mother-nature (death) can resolve the stalemate between the people and the dictator but we are responsible for producing a transitional government to democracy before or after his departure or at least for starting to develop the relationship between free minded Eritreans for democracy in order to impartially influence the future political situation of our motherland. The experimentation period is over for us Eritreans after 22 years of suffering under this dictatorship. Eritrea cannot afford another political mess and we must make sure in unison that nothing but democracy flourishes in our nation after this regime dies out of the society. The prerequisite for success is hard working for it today through close relationship between the independent minded Eritreans.
In conclusion, I willingly and unconditionally united with the Shabias during the struggle because they had a clear objective (ERITREAN INDEPENDENCE). Remember that we are not fighting for independence now but for freedom and democracy, meaning that our question today is democracy. I want to see the whole objective of the movement before fully accommodating it.
I seriously believe that we Eritreans do not need unity to overthrow the dying regime but we need it to define the future political life of our country. Every Eritrean must ask why we need unity, what type of unity and to what end? We need to ask “where is the unity taking us?”And the movement has the responsibility to answer this clearly. If the answer of the unifiers is just to remove the regime and face whatever we may face after, as it currently seems to be; I am not part of it because this objective does not need unity at all. You can worship if you want but please don’t pressurize me to do the same. Accept my individual democratic right to stick with this school of thought and I will accept yours whichever way it may go. If their answer is to democratize the country, the next question is how? Because we have over thirty organized groups including the government claiming the same thing without telling us how to bring it about. If it has a clear road map to democracy, then it must show it in writing: only on this condition do I want to be counted in. The movement must give us its agenda as to how it plans to go with this rout but there is no democracy without description that I can either trust or believe. This is not about trusting a movement but being careful for the sake of the people based on the consecutive Eritrean experience of betrayal on this subject matter. This is rather checking and balancing it on the merit of its democratic content. I have been an animal for blindly following the Shabias and the regime but I am not one any longer to blindly accept something obscure on how to bring democracy in Eritrea; nor do I feel comfortable on why they shy spelling it out for us in accordance to the universally accepted concept of transforming a society from dictatorship to democracy! My position here is “thank you but no”.
I thank the people contacting me to discuss the current challenges on the ground and want to tell you all that you are helping me tremendously to voice your concerns through my articles. I appreciate all participants ahead for working hard to strengthen the relationship of independent minded Eritreans through discussion in the forum. What I write here comes from many minds in our community and we are keeping brother Vacarro posted on our concern as much as we can through this medium; and we can only hope that he refines his movement with our concerns in mind! Please keep calling me for whatever reason at 202-702-3977.
Abraham Haile February 7, 2014
Mr Fitsum;
I read your articles and are wonderful lessons and informations for those who sees it. Yes, the aim is to represent and be represented in un represented community such as our Eritrean Community inside and outside the country. But, our big compatriots like ELF, EPLF and others claims that we are under their tags even if our names aren’t in their shopping list. Why? Because we never learn how to express our feeling and never given chance to chose our road map for democracy whether inside or outside; no one asked us what we want in life and no one ever consider us as liberated people as any body else in our universe except trying to use us as guinypigs for their benefit and we never told them that enough is enough and represent no body in Eritrea or abroad. Therefore, this is the time to pinch the opportunity as it comes and rise for our rights and help wedi Vaccaro to reach out the helpless people. But, be vigilant to all sorts of malicious acts in our market. I am an independent person whom I believe that no body own no body and ready to comprise with legitimate organization under the umbrella of “Eritrean Government in diaspora” and fight the regime in Asmara.
All political parties should subside their org until we achieve our goal and elect our leaders by means of democratic process in Eritrea after liberation. Then, the elected members can form the parties according to our constitution in Eritrea. I want to see no parties formed now before we consolidate our coexistance as a nation. As you said, quite rightly, Wedi Vaccaro should start cleaning his camp before it is too late. Yes, we should aim for a general election to elect represented members of the future Eritrean Government in Diaspora. On his way to final goal, Wedi Vaccaro can include one member of each existing political organization as advisors including the civic organizations so that it can help him solve the stalling mate of the current situation. I could be wrong but it is just an idea to get a remedy to our obstacles. Tell me brother Fitsum, what do you think about it? Thank you.
fetsum abrahamt February 8, 2014
“Wedi Vaccaro can include one member of each existing political organization as advisors including the civic organizations so that it can help him solve the stalling mate of the current situation”
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Brother Abraham; What an idea! Really excellent idea to say the least. He would have resolved a lot of issues if he goes that way. It is not hard to do but he would been the champion of our democracy if he goes that way. This idea will get us into another level of constructive discussion ahead because I will bring it in the next article my brother. Can u please text me ur email address: U know my phone 202-702-3977.
Thank u
belay nega February 9, 2014
” Wedi Vaccaro can include one member of each existing political organization ”
መርከብ ኖህ ተረኺቡለይ
Genet-orginal February 10, 2014
Mr Nega
For Eritreans, it can be Noah’s Ark.
Genet-o
huq February 7, 2014
Every word you utter in your article is golden.I wish you can also write in Tigrigna where more could have the opportunity to read them. By the way, as a person living in DC are you a member of that committee formed after Wedi Vacaro. If not why?
fetsum abrahamt February 8, 2014
Dear huq;
No I am not. Please contact me in DC through my phone and I love u
Zufana February 10, 2014
huq
Very good question why not, why not indeed. Not only he should have been a member but a certain leader of that DC committee of father Wedi Vacarro’s movement. However, in a future free & democratic Eritrea that is post-tyranny Mr Fetsum will definitely be a member of parliament. “Every word you utter in your article is golden”, you put it so beautifully huq.
Tamrat Tamrat February 8, 2014
Which unity is at focus? Uniting the oppositons to toppel the hgdef? Unithing the different ethnic Groups regardless the abusive regime collective punishment? For certain ethnic Groups is it not 23 år more than enough? Is it easier to create unity between the same ethnic Groups which forced to be separated by the adj eri and ethio? Is it not difficult for eri-politicers to die for secession and preach for unity? The secession politics, allies and funds during the seccesion struggel had gott moentum in the name of multituds ethnic Groups both in ethiiopia and Eritrea. So which politics can be used to unite afar and tigrinya by separeting afar from afar. Because Eritrea ruled by hgdf for 23 years and afar eri completly changed from ethio-afar? Why tplf government never propagate for the unity of afar People like they were before 1998? Is it because though the both tigre leaders of eri-ethio at odds now they prefer afar is divided until the right time at hands? Does the New Peace talk brings back the old tigray-tigringe rulling of 1991-1998 this time ethio-tigre taking the upper hand? many of us get uncomfortable by the mentiong of these chalanges but in my mind these are the key obstacles for the Peace and coexistence of Our different ethnic Groups.
We have to Accept one thing though! Be it amara, oromo, tigre, afar etc we are Equals. Do not flatter ourselves. It is not how we regrup Our selves matters but how to respect each other and the unity we are looking for must be based on for Our mutual benefits! Not the idiot unities we demonstrated in 1998-2000.
Truly Truly i say to you February 8, 2014
Before i forward to my today´s massage, please take brother Fitsum that i have admiration towards you, for your eloquent English writing having talent, for your attempt clarity (in transparent form) for sharing us your political point of view, specially in yours today massage i found it very important points, i say thank you!
Indeed Fitsum, the point you raised and you said; ” I of course can only talk about DC where I live: The movement in DC is now motionless and there is zero activity. Plugging that into the formula,
Vacorrian Momentum = The unity Movement X Activities = The Movement X (0) = 0
Mathematically; the movement’s momentum is zero in DC. I don’t know what is going on elsewhere but there is nothing visible here in DC and the movement only exists in theory.”
Because from my observation also similar felling because i have and i scare Wodi Vacaro´s movement like you exactly in mathematical form you put it,
“Vacorrian Momentum = The unity Movement X Activities = The Movement X (0) = 0 ”
not to be fruitless elsewhere i scared , reading our society weakness, after everybody after attending any seminar with great emotion as turning everybody only to concentrate about his daily private life, i would like in my turn to remind Wodi Vacaro so that to check and make sure, ” all his efforts that he had been wasted and he running the race finally not to be end for nothing fruit.”
Tamrat Tamrat February 8, 2014
Confused hgdef pentte!
Truly Truly i say to you February 8, 2014
The second point i not that much understand your point Ato Fitsum regarding your personal democratic right issue you taking if you be able to specify for us it was good. Let me ask you, what you understand about democracy or is your expectation from democracy?
If you are disturbed by the amount of numbers excessity more than 30 unnecessary useless oppositions parties, i am with you. in my view in democratic Eritrea more than three big opposition parties based on economical policy differentiate parties i do not belive our nation will afford more than that. Even in every developed nations the case is not different from that. But in the name of democracy if it to create is division by allowing religious or ethnic orientated parties, sorry from the beginning because the motive is clear to us not to bring peace, unity, stability and economic progress it is, This kind of democracy right which allows regional right in did we may will have, but up to cessation sorry by no means will allow in Eritrea.
You better first practice it this right to give Ogadenian Ethiopians, Oromos etc… if the socalled paid Canadian profesor means this is human right, we first like to see when this right functioning in Canada, if the whole Canada back to the original citizens then we might learn from that. This is a simple logic! You understand you filthy bullshit dividers so called Tamrat, Tamrat and alike people with hidden Ethiopian agenda? Democracy right will be allowed in future Eritrea, under one united Eritrea umbrella motto only. Democracy somewhere should to have a limit! No more the door will open for your chicken great Ethiopia dream by dividing Eritrea!
Tamrat Tamrat February 8, 2014
Mr eri-dergu, you know what happened to derg! Then you choose what kind of hell is awiting you from Your hgdef bible. How come you dont copy and paste some verses from bible and twist it to fit Your twisted hgdef policy.
Blocked February 8, 2014
Fitsum who? No last name?
I did make similar comment on the other blog, but why isn’t Assenna crediting authors properly? On the front page, their full name should be displayed under the title of their article, instead of “by Assenna”
belay nega February 10, 2014
“Vacorrian Momentum = The unity Movement X Activities = The Movement X (0) = 0
Mathematically; the movement’s momentum is zero in DC. I don’t know what is going on elsewhere but there is nothing visible here in DC and the movement ”
Eritrean issue does not need mathematicians,but wise people who accept and live in reality for a long lasting solution.
Genet-orginal February 10, 2014
Dear Mr Nega
You always deny that you are PFDJ’s member, supporter or activist. Although your statements have been telling us otherwise, You say, “I am not PFDJ”. When I read your above comment “Eritrean issue does not need mathematicians, but wise people who accept and live in reality for a long lasting sloution” I all most fall off my chair. Your boss Isayas has been saying, frist, EPLF doesn’t need educated Eritreans, later Eritrea doesn’t need educated Eritreans. Because he wanted unenlightened and dormants like population to prolonged his power, he promoted resentment between educated and Eritrean without formal education. I know, you live in the advanced western world. Do you know that without mathematicians, your current comfortable live wouldn’t be possible? So, why do you want to denie Eritreans, current and future generations the benefit of mathematicians?
Genet-orginal
Genet-orginal February 10, 2014
Mr Nega
You always say, “I am not PFDJ”, even though you have been acting as a strong advocate of Isayas and the PFDJ system. You live in the advanced western world. You are enjoying the comfortable life, because of mathematics and mathematicians. So, why do you want to deny the current and future Eritrean generations the benefit of mathematics and mathematicians? You said, “Eritrean issue does not need mathematicians….” Don’t you know a country can be successfully built, if only educated and people with school of life or wise are encouraged to work together?
Genet-o
belay nega February 10, 2014
Genet-original
I never been HEGDEF and I will never be.Yes I live in USA, not only a country of opportunity, but a real world in which you can get whatever you want at your own expense.
“Don’t you know a country can be successfully built, if only educated and people with school of life or wise are encouraged to work together?”
I agree, but in our case the educated are only good at pointing fingers.
MightyEmbasoyra February 10, 2014
Ato Belay,
p = m * v. We all bound by the laws of physics and unfortunately that’s the truth. Wise people are who recognize reality. The reality is isayas is no good for Eritrea. Isn’t math beautiful?
belay nega February 10, 2014
Dear Mighty
” Wise people are who recognize reality. The reality is isayas is no good for Eritrea.”
The reality is that Eritrean issue is ugly by nature,and whomsoever is swiming in this ugly issue is not good for Eritrea.
MightyEmbasoyra February 11, 2014
Ato Belay,
So, looking at your theory, should I assume no one is good for Eritrea? If so, what would you propose the get our mojo back?
belay nega February 11, 2014
Dear Mighty,
Is Eritrean issue which is not good for anyone.
Meretse Asmelash February 10, 2014
MightyEmbasoyra and belay nega, welcome back to the board of discussion.
Ato belay if there is one thing I like about you, you never hit the road before you throw a hot rock that no one wants to catch. does this mean I agree with your philosophy? may be not. But I really admire your counter philosophy. MightyEmbasora has tried to counter your idea and I hope you are satisfied with his analysis; if not, don’t you think Noah’s ark is simply a symbolic vessel that welcomes everyone on board? In other words, that explains the advantage of inclusive and not the other way around. If you are still not satisfied with that here is a good example why we need the Noah’s ark :- IA, the Eritrean dictator said yesterday, ” anyone who thinks about democracy or multiparty system in Eritrea he/she must be an alien”. And, again, he clarifies his statement that if you think different than me you are not part of this world; and you better go to the moon or beyond.
What do you think about it?
By the way, you too are “WELCOME TO THE ARK OF NOAH”
MightyEmbasoyra February 11, 2014
I think Ato Belay is in the Bahamas, enjoying the clean beaches and recharging his life. I am sure isayas could say the same from Massawa (if isayas is reading, I am being sarcastic). Ato Belay is thinking of coming with another mysterious answer (like Aba hanna, I think – I could be wrong on the name) and he will find a loophole on the momentum eqn. He may think of quantum physics(?) to challenge the great mind of our great ladies (Genet the O., Zufana, etc) and gentlemen (Mereste, Fitsum, Tes, A. Salih, Mesinas, etc).
I admit, Ato Belay is the only “real” challenger to the naysayers (to isayas that is) on this forum and I hate seeing him absent for few days.
Enjoy the vacation and see you soon.
belay nega February 11, 2014
Dear Mighty
“I admit, Ato Belay is the only “real” challenger to the naysayers (to isayas that is) on this forum and I hate seeing him absent for few days.
Enjoy the vacation and see you soon.”
There is a big difference between advocating for the president,and recognizing the determination of the 80,000,000
people.And whether we like it or not, for a long lasting solution Ethiopians question must be addressed and answered properly.
belay nega February 11, 2014
Dear Meretse
” IA, the Eritrean dictator said yesterday, ” anyone who thinks about democracy or multiparty system in Eritrea he/she must be an alien”. And, again, he clarifies his statement that if you think different than me you are not part of this world; and you better go to the moon or beyond.
What do you think about
Is about the [pozzo nero],whomsoever swim in it if not turning to shit he/she smells shit.Even me and you when we associate with clean people that what we smell.
MightyEmbasoyra February 11, 2014
Welcome back, Ato Belay! I guess it was short vacation then.
Meretse Asmelash February 11, 2014
Ato belay I believe you’re trying to tell me and others that politics is dirty by nature. Unless you put everything in one basket there is good politics and bad politics, and the choice is yours. The one that smells fishy is bad politics and frankly I’m not in it.
By the way, and if you don’t mind of course, what was in your mind when you wrote the following?
“There is a big difference between advocating for the president,and recognizing the determination of the 80,000,000
people.And whether we like it or not, for a long lasting solution Ethiopians question must be addressed and answered properly”.
Until you come with the right answer let me speculate-
A. AboYs they GeDs Eyu ThegeDsom Emo GoNai Adgi RiEna NBelom
B. Your means of transportation is a frog
belay nega February 11, 2014
Brother Meretse,
If you do not mind too,let me answer your question with a question.Can you tell me if there is any so called opposition who is in a position to challenge the gov of Eritrea poleticaly or miltarly?
BTW I really enjoy discussing with you.
babu February 10, 2014
Dear brother we can categorize people in three.
Dr. vaccaro has taken his initiative why can’t you come with other practical ideas as his, needless to remind you that you are advocating for your self as a caliber intellectual in possession of theories which can democratize the nation post essayas and beyond.
Since you seem to be reserved to expose your worries you better make one call to the doctor and share with him and let him decide instead of exploiting a momentum again and again.
I am on the other side of the glob than where you are at present,but i can feel your obsession on recognition.Dear brother there is a difference between what you wont and what you deserve.
Based on our history its worthy to be suspicious but the receipt of over suspicion is paranoia.
On the other front you were negating the gathering of some intellectuals for a closed meeting in DC while previously you were criticizing for the silence of Eritrean intellectuals.Dear it is their god given right to do or be what they wont to be.The best we can do is to encourage them and influence them through our deeds,the decision is solely theirs.
For the record there were a number of initiatives taken by individuals or gatherings but many have refrained due to the bad habit we are cultivating such as unreasonable negative comments,attacks,counter attacks,suspicions etc,which Leeds us to intrigues and in turn division rather than collectivness.May i say that might be one of the reasons why the intellectuals chose to remain silent?
I hope you will enlighten me on this.
As you preach for openness and tell the people to say their mind you should be on the forefront to say A,B,C,D…. instead of creating suspicions and panic among the peaple.
I was following your writings on the Dr.vaccaros activities but all that will include you in my category three or at best category two. If you have a substance and you can proof it you have to fire it because in a struggle you don’t see two sides, you just have to go for what you believe even if it encounters death alas.
Let us go out of the box and think right and be righteous,lets show compassion to our compatriots regardless his/her affiliation,Muslim or christian,highlander or lowlander cos at the end of the day they are all Eritreans which might be our burden in the future(let me refresh you on your theory of post essayas) lets build a habit of coexistence,and the rest is done.
I am lucky enough to say that i have been to so many countries in the world and witnessed so many cultures.
The common fa sit for their existence is coexistence through tolerance and respect to each other This is what is missing in present Eritrea to the contrary of what our fathers and forefathers left behind.
According to the law of nature there is an end to all beginnings.Needless to say our present misery will end soon one way or the other lets try to contemplate on the idea which goes «the Haile sellasie era was preferable during the Derg period and at present we are witnessing unthinkable events even during the derg era,mind you what worries me next
Free speaking person doasn’t necessarily mean free thinker because one possesses information or capability of language.
Freedom starts from within.A person in a prison might have a free mindset and free consciousness than a physically free walking Mann physiologically dead(kab mhros aamroo)
Trust me on this Eritrea will be free only and only when we free ourselves from within and leave in harmony with our ourselves and our next.
«Let us free ourselves from mental slavery» Bob Marley and the wailers
And i say «I said all what i said because i know that i don’t know»
My apology for my mistakes if there is any.
I love you all.