Fetsum: Afwerki waiting for his Karma while Andargachew Tsige facing his in Addis
Fetsum: Afwerki waiting for his Karma while Andargachew Tsige facing his in Addis I have yet to come back and finish the ongoing discussion in the last few forums. There were questions we asked that remained
Fetsum: Afwerki waiting for his Karma while Andargachew Tsige facing his in Addis
I have yet to come back and finish the ongoing discussion in the last few forums. There were questions we asked that remained unanswered by the few fundamentalist Moslem elites. I also feel there were few distortions of facts intentionally written to confuse the vulnerable sect of our society that must be clarified for the record. But, let us take a break for now to see what is going on!
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The news of Andargachew’s arrest came at the time the Eritrean president is sued for crimes against humanity by a Swedish law firm and beyond. It appears the seemingly omnipotent Eritrean president that once was unstoppable abuser of humankind is about to face the international court for crimes against humanity. Afwerki is about to pay his karmic consequence sooner than later!
Eritrea president targeted by new Swedish law; 2 July 2014
“Swedish law firm reports Isaias Afewerki and several ministers to the police for crimes against humanity. Several top Eritrean leaders have been reported to the police for crimes against humanity by a Swedish law firm, as a new law took effect enabling such crimes committed anywhere else in the world to be prosecuted in Sweden. The report lists a series of alleged crimes including torture and kidnapping, and targets Eritrean President Isaias Afewerki and several of his ministers by name.”“This is not only symbolic. We believe there are legal grounds to prosecute the people we have named,” human rights lawyer Percy Bratt told the AFP news agency on Tuesday. The legal move, the first of its kind in Sweden, was filed the same day that crimes against humanity were introduced into the Swedish penal code. The code enables judges to prosecute crimes regardless of where they have been committed or by whom.”
Pope Francis gives his full support for Dawit: Pope Francis gives his full support to the international campaign for the release of Dawit Isaac, the Swedish-Eritrean journalist who is imprisoned without trial in Eritrea since 2001. ”I send my blessings and greetings to him and his family,” the Pope said in an exclusive interview with Expressen.
Dawit was a Swedish Journalist that fathered few children in Sweden. He was arrested by the Eritrean government when journalism and freedom of speech were legally practiced in the country. No one ever saw Dawit since 2001 and his parents died in Eritrea without having a chance to visit him in custody.
Afwerki’s verdict on this brother and his family was simply brutal and cruel. Afwerki sacrificed the entire Europe and many international humanitarian organizations through this heinous abuse of humanity that has gained international attention today to the point of the Vatican’s support for unified international solution to the problem.
Way over due of course that the world waited too long for action on the fate of Dawit Isaac but we welcome this development with extreme humility. This is a very good development that can burn the dictator if we enhance it further through demonstrations all over the world. Justice must be served on the condition of Dawit Isaac’s disappearance since 2001 under the offense of the Eritrean regime.Afwerki should one day be forced to face the court with his dogs similar to the fate of his friend Chares Taylor of Liberia.
Who was Andargachew Tsige? Andargachew Tsige was and is the Chairman of a group called Ginbot 7 (there are two groups with this name) working hard to disturb the democratic journey of Ethiopia and our resistance for freedom and democracy with his partner Berhanu Negga from within Eritrea.
How do they survive without international support? First of all, these opportunist Ethiopians have no military skill or dedication and talent to lead an organized force capable of fighting the Ethiopian government. They are mainly supported by the most arrogant and anti-Eritrean individuals from the old Amara Neftegna community that lost the trust of the Ethiopian people currently doing excellent without them.
In “Eritrea provides Ethiopian opposition group Ginbot 7 with $500,000 – ST6/13/2013”;(Sudan Tribune)
“The Eritrean government has offered $500,000 to Ginbot 7, an exiled Ethiopian opposition political organization designated by Ethiopia as terrorist entity, according to a report on a US-based Ethiopia opposition media outlet. In an audio recording of an interview with the group’schairman, leaked toAwrambatimes.com, Berhanu Nega admits that he received the funds. Ginbot 7 often uses Eritrean media as well Amsterdam-based opposition channel, EthiopianSatellite Television (EAST) to broadcast anti-regime campaigns.”
Comment: No other government or organized external group supports the Ginbot 7 except the Eritrean government. They don’t even exist in our region (Somalia, Sudan, Djibouti, Yemen, etc) because they are considered anti peace by the governments in question. The money that we could have used to develop power plants in Eritrea was given to the anti-Eritrean forces that have been uselessly parking in our country mimicking a “strong force” that terrorizes Ethiopia, trying to interrupt the fast development of their country and of course protecting Afwerki as much as possible. The rigid, humorous, slick and charismatic Berhanu has been anti-Eritrean independence throughout his political career; since at least 1975 when he was a member of the toothless EPRP (the way the only political group in the region that has not yet finished studying the Eritrean question 22 years after our independence). So has been his partner Andargachew Tsige! Research says that they only survive of our wealth provided to them by the Eritrean dictator. I can bet the image freak and street-smart Birhanu used the money to chill in NYC bars and restaurants with his admirers (a little business on the side under a relative’s name as well), needless to expect that Andargachew should also have gotten his share of the money for his activities that so far never crossed the boundary of the two countries.
Andargachew Tsige, the Chairman of a group called Ginbot 7 has been living in Eritrea for the last four years glorifying the president as the best medicine for East African political problems. He overly admires the dictator beyond the ordinary. In one of his interviews with Ethiopian journalists, he said that the Ethiopian opposition forces in Eritrea were well fed, dressed, boarded, trained and armed to the best capacity of the Eritrean regime and will soon have the capacity to defeat the WEYANE clique dispatched from its base in Eritrea. He admitted that his group enjoyed a 5-Star Hotel standard treatment and better than all Eritrean forces in the country: this should include the Ministers and Generals as well considering the extreme urge of the president to humiliate Eritreans.
The testimony clearly tells that Afwerki was working hard to ignite war between the Eritreans and the Ethiopians through these worthless groups that have no capacity to defend themselves from any organized group in the region. He would then use our kids for another catastrophic war with Ethiopia for the sake of destruction. Succeed or not immaterial, this might be what was going on in his over-stressed mindset I have no idea what may be going on in his current over-terrified state of mind.
Andargachew, a politician who like Berhanu Negga has never taken a position on the Eritrean sovereignty and ownership of Assab has always been a threat to the Eritrean identity.
To this effect, Teklemichael Abebe, says in “Ethiopia: Commentary on Andargachew’s Interview”, November 7, 2011; “When Sisay [the journalist] asks him what their policy towards working with Eritrea, the issue of access to the Sea, and what they give to Eritrea in exchange of the material support Eritrea affords Ginbot 7, Andargachew’s answer is neither convincing nor honest. At best, he defers the answer to future dates by saying that Ginbot 7 does not have any legal or political authorization from the Ethiopian people to act and bargain on behalf of the people and said the ultimate decision will be made by the Ethiopian people. “
The author, Teklemichael Abebe says the following to Andargachew’s wishy-washy position on the Eritrean question: “First, no rebel group, including the TPLF, EPLF or the SPLA came to power with people’s endorsement or approval. That is a rule that applies at peace time and it is something political parties will strive to attain once political normalcy is established in Ethiopia. Ginbot 7 and other foreign-based political parties are operating in an exceptional situation where obtaining people’s approval is next to impossible. As long as political parties honor their promise to validate their actions with popular vote when they succeed in their struggle, they should not fear to declare their positions upfront on issues that are controversial. Furthermore, it is based on their reasoned positions on these same contentious issues that we support or reject them. Avoidance will not help our parties win the people’s heart. Confronting the issues head-on is the best approach.”
Comment: I agree with Abebe fully here. How come a political organization that aims at holding political power in Ethiopia does not have a concrete stand on Eritrea 22 years after its independence? What does “Ginbot 7 does not have any legal or political authorization from the Ethiopian people to act and bargain on behalf of the people and said the ultimate decision will be made by the Ethiopian people” mean and how practical is this specially in our region (poor and uneducated people)? To Andargachew and Birhanu Negga, the Eritrean issue was something open for Ethiopians to decide in the future. You cannot get ANTI-ERITREAN more than this ladies and gentlemen and this enemy was enjoying full support from our government in this mysterious relationship.
Abebe continues; “What is disconcerting is what could happen after that. Are Shabia’s and Ginbot 7’s long term objectives reconcilable? Are there compatible and enduring interests to turn this alliance into a mutually beneficial long term relationship? In other words, can Shabia be a trusted partner in the aftermath of the removal of the Woyane regime?”
Comment: Experience tells that the president cannot be trusted by any political group for anything positive. What is all this activity for? What is the president trying to do here assuming he succeeds in replacing the Ethiopian government by these anti-Eritrean forces under his control? Abebe’s contemplation on trusting Afwerki as dependable partner has been answered today through Afwerki’s quietist reaction to Andargachew’s deportation from Yemen for arrest in Ethiopia. “He was destined to land in Eritrea” when this event took place. To the vicious and heartless Afwerki who kills people including his friends for fun, Andargachew does not exist any longer and life goes on without any drop of compassion to his current condition under the security forces of Ethiopia.
Abebe: “In his ESAT interview, Andargachew has attempted to provide a rather simplistic narrative of why the Eritrean regime could have an enduring interest in the wellbeing of Ethiopia long-term. The story line, paraphrased, runs like this: under the Woyane regime, Ethiopia has fallen under too much foreign influence, rampant government corruption, widespread youth addiction to hashish and ‘chat’, and sexual immorality. Esayas is worried that these bad things will eventually find their way into Eritrea and corrupt the Eritrean government and nation. “
Comment: This was the best answer Andargachew could give to the mysterious relationship between the anti-Eritrean Ethiopian opposition forces and the president. Clearly, a dictator that does not hesitate to destroy a society would care less about addiction and immorality for the audience to buy this excuse. Can you imagine him to be “so worried about this danger more than the staggering economic, social and political ills that have currently crippled Eritrea?”
Andargachew once “asked the Eritrean president about the future relationship between Ethiopia and Eritrea” and that the president answered that the “sky is the limit”.Apparently, the idea of unification should have been encapsulated with this infinite phrasing to my understanding. It was with this reality in mind that we warned the mercenaries in Eritrea to vacate before facing their fate under the peace loving people of the universe. They did not listen and they are today facing the consequence in practice.
Recent News to this effect: Yemen Unlawfully Deported Andargachew Tsige, June 27, 2012; Press release (London) “An exiled Ethiopian opposition leader unlawfully deported by Yemen back toEthiopia is at risk of mistreatment including torture. Andargachew Tsige is secretary-general of Ginbot 7, a banned Ethiopian opposition organization, and was convicted and sentenced to death in absentia in separate trials in Ethiopia in 2009 and 2012.”
Comment: If I had a chance to be Ethiopian for one minute, I would have classified Andargachew a terrorist in view of the Ethiopians but he was certainly a mercenary in view of the Eritreans. “A mercenary is a person who takes part in an armed conflict, who is not a national or a party to the conflict and is “motivated to take part in the hostilities essentially by the desire for private gain and, in fact, is promised, by or on behalf of a party to the conflict, material compensation substantially in excess of that promised or paid to combatants of similar ranks and functions in the armed forces of that Party.” Further, “a mercenary is essentially motivated by money, the term mercenary usually carries negative connotations.”
The next question is if a mercenary group as such is protected by international law! To this cause, research says the following:
“International treaties established to control the use of mercenaries include the Additional Protocol I and II to Article 47 of the Geneva Convention (1949), the Organization of African Unity (OAU) Convention for the Elimination of Mercenaries in Africa (1972), and the International Convention against the Recruitment, Use, Financing and Training of Mercenaries (1989).”
Andargachew and his partner Birhanu are therefore terrorists to the Ethiopians and Mercenaries to the Eritreans. Andargachew has become a prisoner in Ethiopia for terrorism, needless to say that we should also press change on his Mercenary status in Eritrea.
The common denominator of all Ethiopian groups in the country including the DEMHIT is “anti-Eritrean sovereignty”. None of them has a clear position on our sovereignty. All of them are bandits only supported by the unique dictator in the region. As far as the Eritreans were concerned they have full right to destroy the parasitic forces without any protection from the UN and I think this would be their ultimate fate in Eritrea should they decide to stay Mercenaries in our country until the resistance succeeds.
Interesting in this event was that the entire universe was against the dictator and the bandits he accommodates in Eritrea. The Eritrean regime was silent about the situation because it knows its destructive mission to the region and that no one would care answering anything to Eritrea any longer. It simply does not exist in the universal political pool any more as everything it does was taken for granted as being anti humanity by objective consensus.
In so stating, we have warned all mercenary groups in the country to leave the society alone before it is too late. We warn them again to leave us alone or face the consequence. They need to know that the universe is against them and that the falling dictator cannot protect them anymore. In the mean time very few anti democracy and anti Eritrea Ethiopians had a demonstration in DC on July 8th against the terrorist’s deportation and I hope they enjoyed the show. They were few in number and all looked old and tired like the Eritreans in the HGDEF’s Bologna Festival.
As for us Eritreans, the action was appropriate and timely: We have no conflicting interest with the Ethiopian regime on this account and I close this communication congratulating the People of Ethiopia and Eritrea and reminding the remaining mercenaries in Eritrea to think about their destructive mission and learn a lesson about their inevitable future from the Terrorist/Mercenary Andargachew Tsige’s predicament!
Tamrat Tamrat July 11, 2014
From Gashe Fitsum to a talkative pensionist in a local barbary shop!
That is how Your comments rates you. There is no doubt that Ginbot 7 is the worrest enemy of Ethiopia which they declared it when they joned the eplf leader. No Ethiopian can get Peace With eplf before ONE OF THEM change their policy for good or bad, you know it. We have a living proof that eplf is a disaster not only for ethiopia but for the very eritrean People who are promised Peace, prosperity etc.
So mr talkative, wha have you done when Your country has been led by a cluless dictaor and party for the last 23 years? How come you Call yourself an eritrean while Your eplf is hiering ethiopian mercinary to destroy Eritrea? Where is the limit for pensioinists like you stop talking? When do you see the shame you brought on the two Peoples? When do you understand it is a shamefull act to be led by eplf a cone artist who finally pays millions of dollar to ethiopian parties who want to unite Eritrea and Ethiopia? According to you ginbot 7 is working With eplf so that it can secure Assab for Ethiopia. Are you saying Your party eplf is as dumb as Your leader? Or are you telling us isayas/eplf is working for uniting ethiopia and Eritrea under the rule of king isayas? You can put it in any combination you want it, any ethiopian party working With isayas is a catastrophy. No party than tplf can come to closer to eplf or isayas. And you know what happened to Ethiopia School children!
So in summary, ginbot 7 is the lowest life form of scambag while it a shame full act for eplf invasting on such Group just for the sake of destroying Ethiopia. Remember eplf has nothing to do With Eritrea. Its aim is to destroy Ethiopia. P e r i o d. And you aim is to sit and talk in Your golden pension age.
Tes July 11, 2014
Tamrat
What is wrong with you? Why don’t you behave like a gentleman and argue if you have any point to prove. May I remain you are guest here? Behave like a guest otherwise pick up and go to where you belong to your country website or forum. Baleghe uninvited guest behaving badly. By the way why are you obsessed with Eritrea and Eritreans. We have enough problems without your unhelpful interference. If you are a paid agent , I don’t who you are working, I think you are in a wrong place and ask for re-location.
tamrat tamrat July 11, 2014
Talkativ
Hagherawi July 11, 2014
Tamrat how much you know about EPLF ?
BTW, EPLF does not equal Iseyas, it’s a nationalist organization that brought independence to Eritrea. EPLF is a victim of Iseyas and a few criminals like him.
Remnants of imperial Ethiopia and Ethiopianists like YG who are uncomfortable with Eritrea’s independence have tried to de-legitimize our struggle for freedom but have miserably failed. We don’t want discuss Ethiopian issues here, I don’t know why Fesum is doing that. We have enough problems that can keep us busy day and night and forget about Ethiopia it’s myriad political problems.
Kombishtato July 11, 2014
Arabawi writes, “Remnants of imperial Ethiopia and Ethiopianists …”
What about Arabist remnants like you who would not raise their fingers to defend their own Tigre-Tigrinya identity but never get tired to protect alien Arab identity and Syrian -Iraqi Baathist none sense and Saudi-Sudani Salafist trash.
Abdu July 11, 2014
Fitsum and alike
Some one posted in your previous article that ” how come when a dictator helped & supported Somalian Alshebab Talibanizim concept you don’t call him Taliban;terrorist . But; when one innocent Eritrean Moslim asks his/her rights you call them radical;terrorist fundamentalist;talibanist and so..And as far as we would think you are infected by contagious disease called hatred against Eritrean Moslims which u really to focus to find a cure .bcz for ages Eritrean Muslims never been called terrorists ;radicals or talibans by compatriot Eritrean Christians before never;never they’ve lived for ages together and eritrean Muslims never;never;never act and shown any kind of terrorism actually it is against Islam; so allof sudden now ;i think you brought it some where from Mekele and kind of unfinished business from Hatsyea Yiohans & uncle empty op sorry I mean Emperor jonny.
Kombishtato July 11, 2014
Fitsum writes, “Andargachew, a politician who like Berhanu Negga has never taken a position on the Eritrean sovereignty and ownership of Assab has always been a threat to the Eritrean identity.”
I don’t think that this is very important to raise. It is important we leave Ethiopian politics to the Ethiopians unless the issue affects us directly. About the issue of Assab, the Ethiopians are likely to raise the issue if the political slide of Eritrea continues at the current speed. At this speed, the disintegration of Eritrea is clear. In that situation, the issue of sovereignty of Assab and the ports is irrelevant to eritreans because there may not be an entity called Eritrea. Eritreans and Eritrean politics are making this plausible.
The death and end of Eritrea is not an illusion anymore. Eritrea is dying very slowly. (Just read the Pastoral Letter from Eritrea again). When tens of thousands are leaving Kebesa Eritrea every year, and no one is replacing them, then it is not the Weyanes, the Berahanus and the adargatchews who responsible for our demise.
Eritrea’s predicament is not about Assab or soveregnity, as YG and the Pastoral Letter makes it clear: It is an existential issue of the people; not of the imagined political map and its politics but of the the population, languages, identity, beliefs, traditions and history.
Tamrat Tamrat July 11, 2014
Ya, man! We need more years to understand what YG is telling us. Take care of each ethnic Groups as if it is Yours then you get the result you are wishing for. Be it Ethiopia/Eritrea, shabia/woyane, amhara, tigrinya, do take care of each ethnic Group With respect. We have come so far now so we have to stop wadging war instead let’s us protect the interest of each of Our ethnic Groups. Wheather we are majority or minorty, let us not use unity for the benefit of one ethnic Group. If we mean all the leaders before 1991 have done all wrong, then let us not repeat the same mistakes, at least let us not make it worse.
Hagherawi July 11, 2014
“Eritrea’s predicament is not about Assab or soveregnity, as YG and the Pastoral Letter makes it clear: It is an existential issue of the people; not of the imagined political map and its politics but of the the population, languages, identity, beliefs, traditions and history.”
Kombishtato
Ethiopianists like you and YG are working hard to dismantle Eritrea posing as Eritreans and creating a wedge among its indigenous people on every issue. We know too well that you are interested only about sea access, and everything else is good only if it leads to that. Don’t think you are playing it smart, you are not fooling anyone.
Kombishtato July 11, 2014
al Arabawi writes, “Ethiopianists like you and YG are working hard to dismantle Eritrea posing as Eritreans and creating …”
You started to dismantle Eritrea long ago when you started to burn the Tigre language and preached openly allergy to your own parent’s Shire-based Tigrinya language. Hating Eritrean languages and values is the message you spew off often as a trusted Arabist to poison our identity and to Arabize Eritrea.
Are you telling me that there will be a land called Eritrea and its ports after burning Eritrean languages and after the extinction of the Kebesa Eritreans? Only in your borrowed Arabist mind.
Selamawi' July 11, 2014
Dear Hagherawi,
Unless you have an ax to grind YG’s commitment to the Eritrean people is not questionable. I have been reading his latest essays, and found them to be extremely patriotic Eritrean. YG has studied the Eritrean social and political situation meticulously. He now an authority in this field. This is my sincere view.
Now if you would be kind enough to help me, I would appreciate if you would give me evidence that led you to believe that he is an ‘Ethiopianist’ as you characterized him.
My observation, over the years, those individuals who seek radical change and the seek it immediately are given different names from awraja to ‘esepa’ to weyane, jehadist… If YG’s manifesto was to be implemented now, so many Eritrean lives would be spared. For me YG’s message is simple: Save Eritrean before the Nation perishes, before its people are extinct. Any quarrels with this?
I also observed over the years that those who advocate for Arabization of the nation tend to characterize individuals with different views as deki Hailesellasie or andenetawian. Clearly double standard.
God save the Eritrean people. Amen!
Hagherawi July 12, 2014
Brother, anyone who condemns Ghedli (YG), tries to de-legitimize it by calling it “Shifta”, and refuses to condemn atrocities committed by Ethiopian army against innocent civilians or justifies such horrible crimes, for me he is an enemy. Besides, he doesn’t even recognize a State called Eritrea.
He is Ethiopian if not by birth by choice.
AHMED OMER July 11, 2014
Fusom Afworki
Asiyas Afworki
The two named above they did the same job from different sites even they have the same mental full of hate without any excuse .Mr.Fusom talking about Ethiopia and he wants fix Ethiopian problems more than Ethiopians themselves and in his previous articles he has abused Eritrean Muslims without talking about Eritrea n one negative word from all his full of hate articles I have understood that he has hidden agenda paid already as a wage for planting and spreading a hate between Eritrean people .
Note :-
Asena (Amaniel and your team )
ARE YOU HAPPY WITH EVERY ARTICLES HIT ERITREAN PROPLE’S UNITY ON CORE
SPECIALLY AMANIEL YOU TALKING TOO MUCH AN IMPORTANT OF OUR PEOPLE’S UNITY ON.
hmmm July 11, 2014
Another interesting topic….
I am not going to shade tears for Andargachew but I don’t like what Yemen did to him. It is a violation of international travel agreement. Isayas can do the same imposing travel restrictions on Eritrean opposition members by forging agreements with his dictator fiends. I also heard the interview you mentioned when Andargachew tried to be illusive an indication his movement plans to challenge the Eritrean independence. It is a wishful thinking. There is only one condition Eritreans may choose to re-unite with Ethiopia, if the radical Muslims occupy Eritrea and attempt to change our language and identity.
hmmm July 11, 2014
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Tamirat: And what exactly is Weyane’s and your mission?
1. Can you explain why TPLF illegally hold on to our territory after the final and binding decision to award it to Eritrea?
2. Can you explain why Weyane created Afar and other Eritrean separatist groups in Ethiopia?
3. Can you tell me why Weyane opened its boarder wide open allowing Kebesa Eritreans to leave Eritrea and enter Ethiopia. After they enter deny them work and travel permit and turn them in to beggars, and prostitutes?
4. Can you tell us why Ethiopians like yourself come here and insult our Muslim population? or pretend to care about Kunama and Afar to agitate and create ethnic conflicts?
Compare to what Ethiopia is doing to destabilize Eritrea, the hosting Ginbot-7 is nothing. A proper action to punish Ethiopia would be to give Egypt a green line to sabotage the blue nile project. If Ethiopia continues with its effort to sabotage Eritrea, that may be what awaits Ethiopia in the future.
Tamrat Tamrat July 12, 2014
You can create eplf, tplf, or for that matter Ethiopia or Eritrea, but not ethnicity. That job is left for a higer Power. Why dont you sit and tell us Yours once upon a time there was a party called eplf and then it created tplf bla bla.
Barentu July 11, 2014
There is no doubt that Fetsum is one of the towering and open minded commentators here, however, in my opinion it is not good enough to comment and take sides on internal Ethiopian politics. This should be left to the Ethiopians,
Abdu July 11, 2014
Betentu
So; what do you want him to do if he is bankruptcy of thoughts; at least better than insulting Muslims.
Hagherawi July 12, 2014
“A proper action to punish Ethiopia would be to give Egypt a green line to sabotage the blue nile project. If Ethiopia continues with its effort to sabotage Eritrea, that may be what awaits Ethiopia in the future.”
hmmm
You have a twisted prespective on every issue, typical of Higdef’s empty mind. You don’t miss an opportunity to deny your governments failures.
Ethiopia did not create ethnic problems, you did. You gave Ethiopia chance to shelter those who are trying to survive the brutal killing machine of the dictator and his regime.
You want Ethiopia to close its borders on the face of civilians from Kebessa escaping persecution and misery.
You think you can penalize Ethiopia by involving our country in Nile water dispute, totally ignoring the dire consequences that can affect Eritrea.
Will you ever learn to be a bit responsible stop making hollow threats ?