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ዋሕዚ ነጻ ሓበሬታ ብምንጥጣፍ ህዝቢ ንቕሓት ደሊቡ ንነገራት ብልቦና ክመሚ ብዓቢኡ ኣብ ቃልሲ ዲሞክራስያዊ ለውጢ ሃገርና ኤርትራ ሰፊሕ ተሳታፍነት ክህልዎ ብዓቕምና ኣበርክቶ ንምግባር ከነካይዶ ኣብ ዝጸናሕና ፈተነ፡ ካብቲ ከም ቀንዲ ኣተኵሮና ዝተለምናዮ መኸተ ውልቀምልኪ ሓሓሊፎም

ዋሕዚ ነጻ ሓበሬታ ብምንጥጣፍ ህዝቢ ንቕሓት ደሊቡ ንነገራት ብልቦና ክመሚ ብዓቢኡ ኣብ ቃልሲ ዲሞክራስያዊ ለውጢ ሃገርና ኤርትራ ሰፊሕ ተሳታፍነት ክህልዎ ብዓቕምና ኣበርክቶ ንምግባር ከነካይዶ ኣብ ዝጸናሕና ፈተነ፡ ካብቲ ከም ቀንዲ ኣተኵሮና ዝተለምናዮ መኸተ ውልቀምልኪ ሓሓሊፎም ዝኣልዩና ፈተነታት ኣይተሳእኑን። ሎሚ ‘ውን ሓደ ካብ ተመሳሳሊ ኣጋጣሚታት ረኺብና ኣለና ‘ሞ፡ ነቲ “ቐንጠብ” ካብ ክንዳንና ኣሊና ናብቲ ቀንዲ ውራይና ክንምለስ ከተፍቅዱልና ንኣንበብትና ብትሕትና ንሓትት።

ንመበል 65 ዓመት መቕተልቲ ኣቦና ሸኽ ዓብደልቃድር ከቢረ ንምዝካር ብ 2 ሚያዝያ ኣብ ለንደን ባህላዊ ምሸት ከምዝተኻየደ ዝሕብር ዜና ካብ “ማሕበር ግብረ-ሰናይ ከቢረ ጨንፈር ዓባይ ብሪጣንያ” ምስ በጽሓና፡ ነቲ ምስ ኤዲቶርያል ፖሊሲና ዘይሰማማዕ ዝበልናዮ ክፋል መሚና፡ ኣብቲ ቀንዲ ጉዳይ ዝኽሪ ኣቦና ሸኽ ዓብደልቃድር ከቢረ ዘተኮረ ዜና ኣብ መርበብ ሓበሬታ ኣሰና ዘርጊሕናዮ። እቲ መሚና ዘትረፍናዮ ሓበሬታ “ንጀበርትን ብድሆታቱን ኣብ ኤርትራ” ዝምልከት ብ skype ከምዝተዋህበ ዝተጠቕሰ ኣስተምህሮን፡ ከም ድሕረ ባይታ ናይቲ ዜና ብምትሕብባር ምስ ማሕበር ጀበርቲ ጨንፈር ሽወደን ተመሳሳሊ ባህላዊ ምሸት ከምዝተኻየደ ዘመልክት ሓበሬታን እዩ።

እንተኾነ፡ “ማሕበር ግብረ-ሰናይ ከቢረ ጨንፈር ዓባይ ብሪጣንያ”፡ “ ብመርበብ ሓበሬታ ኣሰና ዝተፈጸመ ኣነዋሪ ተግባር” ብዝብል ኣርእስቲ ኣብ መርበብ ሓበሬታ ጀበርትን ቶጎርባን ንኣሰና ከምዝዘለፈ ሰሚዕና፡ እቲ ጽሑፍ ምስ ኣንበብናዮ ድማ፡ ነገሩ፡ እንተወጸ “መጸጸ መጸጸ”፡ እንተዘይወጸ ድማ “ቀርጸጸ ቀርጸጸ”፡ ኩሉ ወዮ ኮይኑ ረኺብናዮ። ነቲ ሓበሬታ እንተዘይነውጽኦ ዘረባ ኣይምተረፈን፡ ነቲ ሓበሬታ ብምውጻእና ድማ ዘረባ ኣይተረፈን። ናይ ግዳይነት ስነኣእምሮ (victim mentality) ዘለዎ ሰብ፡ ጌርካሉ ኣይጌርካሉ ወትሩ ንነገራት ብሕማቕ’ዩ ዝትርጉሞ ‘ሞ፡ እንሆ ብርእዮ ኣጋጢሙና።

ኣብ ከምዚ ዝኣመሰለ ሓሸውየ ክንኣቱ ስለዘይመረጽና፡ ኣብ ለንደን ንዝርከብ ሓላፊ “ማሕበር ግብረ-ሰናይ ከቢረ ጨንፈር ዓባይ ብሪጣንያ”፡ ብቐጥታ ቴለፎን ደዊልና ናይ ምምማይ ሞያዊ መሰልና ተጠቒምና ነቲ ዜና ከም ዝዘርጋሕናዮን፡ ምመያ ዘካየድናሉ ምኽንያት እንታይ ከምዝነበረን ገሊጽናሉ። ንመሳርሕቱ ከካፍሎም ምርኩስ ዝኾኖ ደብዳበ ስለዝሓተተ ድማ ቅዳሕ ቃልና ብኡንብኡ ብጽሑፍ መብርሂ ሂብናዮ። እቲ ማሕበር ግን በቲ መብርሂ ኣይሰኸነን ጥራይ ዘይኮነ፡ ኣብ ጀበርትን ቶጎርባን ዝተባህላ ወብሳይታት ብዝተፈላለየ መልክዕ ሃጠውቀጠው ዝመልአ ዘመተ ጸለመ ቀጺሉ። (ብኢመይል ዝለኣኽናሎም ደብዳበ ኣብ ታሕቲ ተመልከት)።

ናብቶም ምንጪ ናይቲ ጉዳይ ዝኾኑ ሰባት ብስቱር መብርሂ ምልኣኽና ትዕግስቲ ብምግባር ካብቲ እንድልዮ ናይ ዲሞክራስያዊ ለውጢ ዕላማ ከይንእለ፡ ከምኡ ‘ውን ስም ናይቶም ቅዱስ ዝኽሪ ዝግብኦም ሓርበኛ ኤርትራዊ ኣቦና ሸኽ ዓብደልቃድር ከቢረ ምስ ከምዚ ዝኣመሰለ ምምልላስ እናተጠቕሰ ከይመራሳሕ ዝገበርናዮ ፈተነ እዩ። ከምቲ ብተደጋጋሚ ግዜ እንርእዮ ዘለና ግን፡ ኣምሳያ’ቲ ልቢ ከነዕቢ ዝገበርናዮ ፈተነ ሸለል ብሃልነት፡ ኣብ ርእስና ከዅድዱ እምበር ካብ ርእስና ከወርዱ ኣይረኣናዮምን።

ንዓና ከም ኣሰና፡ ኣቦና ሸኽ ዓብደልቃድር ከቢረ፡ ዓፋር ዲዮም ዋላ ጀበርቲ ወይ ትግረ ዘይኮነስ ኤርትራዊ ተቓላሳይን ኤርትራዊ ግዳይን ምንባሮም ‘ዩ ኣገዲሱና። “ማሕበር ግብረ-ሰናይ ከቢረ” ብሓቂ ንሓድጊ ታሪኾም ብሰናይ ተግባር ነባሪ ዝኽሪ ከጓናጽፍ ዝተዓጥቀ ማሕበር እንተኾይኑ ኸኣ፡ ኣሰና ንግዳይነቶም ኣዘኻኺራ ሞያኦም ከተጕልሕ ዘርኣየቶ ፈተነ፡ ብኣውንታ ከመስግኖ እምበር ከም ነውሪ ክዝለፎ ኣይነበሮን። ሽምን ዝኽርን ኣቦና ሸኽ ዓብደልቃድር ከቢረ፡ ‘ጀበርቲ’ ዝብል ስም እንተዘይተሓዊሱዎ ትርጉምን መቐረትን ኣይህብን ‘ዩ’ ዝብለ መን እዩ? ንዓና ጓኒኹም፡ ዋናታት ታሪኽ ኣቦና ሸኽ ዓብደልቃድር ከቢረ ዝገበረኩም ከ መን እዩ? “ንዜናኦም ‘ጀበርቲ’ ብዝብል ስም ዘይተሰንዩዎ እንተዄንኩም ከተትርፉዎ ኔይሩኩም” ዝብል ትእዛዝኩም ከ  በየናይ መንገዲ ቅቡል ክኸውን ይኽእል? ሰማዒ ዝረክብ ዶ ኸ ይመስለኩም?  ከምዚ እንተኾይኑ፡ እቲ ማሕበር ንሽምን ዝኽርን ናይቶም ግዳይ መግዛእቲ ዝኾኑ ሓረበኛ ተቓላሳይ፡ ጉልባብ ተጠቒሙ ሕቶ ጀበርቲ ንምስልሳል ይምዝምዞ ከምዘሎ ስለዘስምዕ፡ መራኸሲኡ እዩ።

ከምቲ ኣብ ደብዳበ ‘ውን ዝገለጽናዮ፡ ኣሰና ነቲ ንኹልና ኤርትራውያን ዝዕምጸና ዘሎ ውልቀምልካዊ ስርዓት ብሓባር እንምክተሉ መንገዲ ንምፍጣር ብሓበሬታ ዝጕስጕስ፡ ነቲ ዝርካቡ ንኡስ ዓቕሙ ትዅረት ብዘለዎ Focused ብዝኾነ መንገዲ ናብቲ ቀንዲ ዕላማ ክጥቀመሉ ዝጽዕር መርበብ እምበር፡ ብሄራት፡ ጉጅለታት፡ ቀቢላታት ኤርትራ ዘጻሪ መርበብ ኣይኮነን። ቅድሚ ሕጂ፡ ብሄረ ትግርኛ፡ ብሌን ወዘተ ናይ ዝብሉ ምንቅስቓሳት ወይ ማሕበራት ዝተላእከልና ሓበሬታ ብኸፊሉ ዘይኮነ ብዓንዳ-ርእሱ ኣይተጠቕምናሉን። ስለዚ ሎሚ ዝጀመርናዮ ፖሊሲ ኣይኮነን። ሎሚ እነቋርጾ ‘ውን ኣይኮነን።

እዚ ዝወሰድናዮ ስጉምቲ፡ ነቲ ጉዳይ ብሄራትን ጉጅለታትን ንጎድኒ ገዲፍና ብሓፈሻ ኣብ ጉዳይ ዲሞክራስያዊ ለውጢ ኤርትራ ከም ሃገር ምትኳር ከምዘስርሓና ንእንኣምነሉ መትከል ንምሕላው (Consistent ንምዃን) ዝቐጸልናዮ መርገጺ ደኣምበር ከምቲ ብማሕበር ግብረሰናይ ከቢረ ዝተባህለ ንህላወ ጀበርቲ ንምጽባእ ወይ ሞያኡ ንምንእኣስ ሕጂ ዝፈለምናዮ ጥበብ ኣይኮነን። ጀበርቲ ‘ብሄረ ጀበርቲ’ ተባሂሉ ክጽዋዕ ዝደሊ እንተኾይኑ ንዕኡ ዝምልከት ጉዳይ እዩ። ጀበርቲ እንተነፍዑ ከም ኤርትራውያን ንሕጎሰሎም፡ እንተተወጽዑ ንቕንዘወሎም፡ እንተሓመቑ ድማ ዓቕምና ዝሃበና ኣጆኹም ንብሎም እምበር፡ ናብ ተጻብኦ ዝወስድ ዝኾነ ምኽንያት የብልናን። እቶም ከምዚ ዝኣመሰለ ኣሰር ዘይብሉ ዘረባ ዝዝወርዉ ዘለዉ ውልቀሰባት፡ ንድሕረት ኣተሓሳስባኦም እዮም ዘንጸባርቑ ዘለዉ።

ብቐረባን ብማዕዶን፡ ብግህዶን ሕሜታን ዘለፋ ክውርወረልና ፋልማይና ስለዘይኮነ፡ ድሮ ቆርበትና ምስ ናይ ብዕራይ ተዳሪጉ፡ ተደሪዑ እዩ። ልብና ካብ ማንም ንላዕሊ ኣጸቢቕና ስለእንፈልጥ፡ ናይ ልብና ንዓና ክነግሩና ብዝህንደዱ ኣይንግረምን፡ ኣይንጭነቕን ኢና። ሕጂ ዘጽሕፈና ዘሎ ምኽንያት ‘ውን፡ ነቲ ክሒኑ ዘሎ ጸቢብ ኣእምሮ ናይዞም ውልቀሰባት መድሃኒት ነስኒስና ከነሐድሶ ዘይኮነ፡ ነቶም ቃልና ዘይሰምዑ ኣሕዋትና ጀበርቲ ብፍላይ፡ ብሓፈሻ ድማ ንህዝቢ እቲ ፍጻሜ ከመይ ከምዝነበረ መብርሂ ንምሃብ እዩ።

ኩሎም እቶም ኣብ ኤርትራ፡ ፍትሒ፡ ማዕርነት፡ ሓርነት ዲሞክራሲ፡ ዝደልዩ ወገናት፡ ነቲ ብሓባር ከም ኤርትራውያን ንምስራሕ ዘለና ርእይቶ፡ ኣብ ብዙሕነት ኤርትራ ምስ ዘይምእማን ኣዳሪጎም ብጌጋ ከይርድኡዎ ንምሕጸን። ኤርትራ ብዙሓዊ ሕብረተሰብ ዝሓቖፈት ሃገር ምዃና ብወረቐት ዘይኮነ ብግብሪ ኣጸቢቕና ንፈልጥ፡ ሓድነት ኤርትራውያን ኣብ ብዙሕነት ዝተመስረተ ክኸውን ከምዘለዎ ንግንዘብ፡ ሕድሕድ ፍልልያትና ኣኽቢርናን ተኸባቢርናን ብሓባር ምስ እንሰርሕ፡ ነቲ ከም ሃገርን ከም ህዝብን ክብረትና ቀንጢጡ ዘዋርደና ዘሎ ምልካዊ ስርዓት ኣሊና፡ ጽቡቕ መጻኢ ህዝቢ ኤርትራ ኣብ ምውሓስ ከምእንዕወት ‘ውን ንኣምን። ውልቀሰብ ይኹን ጉጅለ ቀቢላ ይኹን ብሄር፡ ብሓባር ንምስራሕ ከም ጽያፍ ቆጺሩ፡ ኣብ ጸቢብ ጉጅለኣዊ ረብሓ ጥሩፍ ኣተኵሮ ዝገብር እንተኾይኑ፡ ኣይካብቲ ጉጅልኣዊ ኣይካብቲ ሃገራዊ ረብሓ ምናምን ኮይኑ ክነብር እምበር ፋይዳ ክረክብ ኣይኮነን። ሓቢርና ምስ እንመንዕ ኢና እነድምዕ። ስለዚ ፈውሶም ዝቐድዎም ለባማት እምበር፡ ፈውሶም ዘቐንዝዎም ብሃማት ክነክውን የብልናን።

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ብ 7 ሚያዝያ ናብ “ማሕበር ግብረ-ሰናይ ከቢረ ጨንፈር ዓባይ ብሪጣንያ”፡ ብኢመይል ዝለኣኽናዮ ደብዳበ ተመልከት

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  • idris April 19, 2012

    all eritreans including assena shall recognize Jeberti as a ‘bher’. whether you accept it or not this will be a reality soon. our identity shall not be suppresed by the name of eritreanism as we can be good Jeberti and good eritreans. We shoud not be dominated by minority few. after all, a majority of the eritrean people is a muslim

    • Baraee April 20, 2012

      Idris,
      What defines as bher/natinalithy? Language!! You are tigriniya bher..period.
      e.g Rashaida they are Arabs…their language dictates that. Last I checked the most popular “watta” foklore singer was Yahya!! He made his language and it’s art so much pride.

      • jemal April 20, 2012

        There are two things here ;which you mixing them up. Okay ; i did explain that if you really have that listen. First ; what is the definition of language ? experts when they define it ;it is simply a system of communication or a group of words used to translate .
        Now; lets talk about Behere .beher is ; An identity or a group of people who shares a common distinctive culture; religen and language and so on . Now again just just some one speaks the language that doesn’t make in one or the same Ethnic Kapoche .
        a question for you. if Tomorrow Sarcozi ; Obama or Toney speaks Tigrigna does it make them Beher Tigrigna.
        Second Question for you ; you speak tigrigna and the the Ethiopian Tigray they speak tigrigna does it make you belong to the ninth Beher of Ethiopian Tiray behere?

        • Baraee April 21, 2012

          what a very intellgent argument.
          Tell me then what is the language of Jeberti. Whil I know OBAMA speaks english and could speak trigrinia and would not be bher tigrinia and the same as with Sarcozy.
          Language is what defines your heritage of origin and but it is not onluy left for you to speak it.

          • jemal April 22, 2012

            I guess it is very intellegent enough for you. Now i know i am arguing with the wrong person.

    • manfree888@yahoo.co.uk April 20, 2012

      Dear idris

      WHY DO U NEED TO RECONIZE BY THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BLACK HISTORY AND STILL CONTINUE TO MAKE BLACK HISTORY. THE ERITREAN CHRISTIAN NEVER ACCEPT REALITY AND TRUE AND THIS IS PART OF THEIR CULTURE SO IT IS NOT POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO SEE THE REALITY OR TO LIVE IN THE TRUTHFULL WAY.
      AS IN TIGRIGN SAY , SAYS (NAY ABO NEMEN NAHABO) THE INHERITED THIS FROM THEIR ANCCESTARS.

  • manfree888@yahoo.co.uk April 19, 2012

    Jemal
    i have agreed with comment and we need to be careful with people . They are all same when it come against us but they here to look after their interest as isyas did not let them to fulfill their ambition.

    Muslim Jebert

  • manfree888@yahoo.co.uk April 19, 2012

    idris

    We do not need their help or recognition as we have a solid history than them thats why they want to hide their weaked action under tigrigna behare by included the jeberti people with their black history

    Muslim Jeberti

    • Freeprisoners April 19, 2012

      manfic888
      What is your solid history, as i said earlier, you have mental problems of rasist attituted. your sprite is evill. we never heard an Eritrean like you who is blind with regionalism and rasism. you need to go mental surgery.

      with the way you are thinking, if it was to be to all of us, you would never see back Eritrea even at the free time. Because your rasist and regionalist behaviour has a dangrous squance. And we would not allow you to affect follow honesst Eritrean muslim and christains. you are whore mantality with religious and regionalism. you still need to grew up.

      • ahmed saleh April 19, 2012

        These guys do not represent the good Jeberti brothers, period.
        I have close jeberti friends who are nationalists and the brave
        martyred childhhood friends in my mind not to fall to these
        nonsenses. There are more to the issue of Jeberti people injustices
        to concentrate rather than complicate things like this.

        • Freeprisoners April 19, 2012

          ahmed saleh
          thank you,i can see that you are a hopeful person. Weldone man.
          Yes the Assenna case is finished after we critised its approch to its client. They have done v well now but i was really angry in the past, because it was quite hard.
          anyway, as you say, i will ingnor the guy who is named as ‘ mad 888’ his dangrous attituted has made us thinking. its not its time what he is speaking. we need to unite to free our country from the dictatorial regime, otherwise its not the time to speak about regional and religios things. We eritrean never had such divisive attituted. This stupid person need to learn v well.
          weldone man,carry on.

        • jemal April 20, 2012

          Ahmed Saleh . to just let your comment to post it for you here in assenna you become too soft Bro. look you should have a strong stand (tsunu metkel. ) we are not asking you to take aside with any one; all we are saying is be fair and stand with the truth and also try to find out yourself what happend from the begginig ; people don’t have screeming addiction here ; what we are trying to do is WE are just trying to protect our identity; the identity that we kept over 1400 years ago. So Bro. for your information it’s not going to happen and we are not going to let it happen. And also i think you should stop playing double standerd don’t be uncle sam. one very imoprtant thing i want to say is that we are not going to ask you to repersent us feel free and have a nice dream;BCZ. we are capable of facing to multipleproblems and we will solve our problem ourself; it’s not the first time and it’s not going to be the last. But one thing i will guaranteed you is that we will over come
          Mr. saleh ; i ‘ve wached your comment several times.

          • ahmed saleh April 20, 2012

            Jemal
            My stand is firm for united Eritrea. We are fighting
            for injustices for all our people. Any religious, region
            and ethnic issues only brings division and mistrust
            to eachother to benefit the oppressors. We are in
            21st century, shame to argue in this issue. You see
            christian brothers who defend you, me and others
            causes. And I do not have an intention to represent
            any group rather than whole Eritrean people as my
            own society.Maintaining a positive mental attitude
            can win over the negative thoughts that constantly
            surround us. Doors always open to the enthusiastic
            people so have faith in your people. We- them kind
            of language is backward sentiment as far as I am
            concerned and sad to hear from you.
            NB: Last time when we were resisting to defend the
            Jeberti issue, You didn’t jump in then to come this
            time with your false accusations.

    • Lilay April 19, 2012

      Idris and Manfree.

      Abzi konka aferfer aykonen bafka ane jeberti ane kolkal ane aslamay ane gele aykonen ab Uk tehbika. Enihe mede enhie feres wured n med. Harae. Eritrea has owners and they the Merhawi kebesa and Merhawi Midrebeda.

      Abey nerka bumba semhar ab zibanu seb kezihil kelo? Abey nerka ab nakfa n 10 amet seb kiregareg.

      Abey nerka storona, mereb setit burie timali Eritrawian sef kimezu kelewu n hagerom?

      Adika zeytifelit ente koynka ane kinegreka, Tigray eyu. Merebka Tesager zereba keygeberka. Betki.

      • Letinna April 19, 2012

        lili lili lili you are very wrong and you don’t have right to insult. Idris & Manfree have the right to discuss things. Coming to the point can you tale me from where your grand grand fathers are? I am sure if you are Tigrigna speaker they are from Tigray. What do you know if these people were fighting in Semhar and other places? People with your atitude will be a problem after the freedom but as it is already said by others you are very few.
        This Jebertys have the right to have their own ”beher” throug referendem. No one can tale them from where their beher is.

      • jemal April 20, 2012

        You wrong Zemaday. where not just bolshiting as you lablel us as you think . first of all ; you don’t have a right none what so ever to catogrize one Etnick that they haven’t done any thing. and i sussgest you to read histry for that.Second ; you don’t know who does what when & where unless we have to come to you and report what has been done by us Mr. judgemental and plus it’s not that every body that they have to be bombed ; killed ; wonded and suffers in a revolution. In a fight revolution different people contribute indefferent ways of doing it. So i think you should thanks the Martyrs those who persecute and paid the most expensive and most valuble trasure of thier life for us. here me and you that argu .If it wasn’t them ; we probably may not be here today.
        Brother: #1
        we ‘ve been arguing during Etiopian Union.
        we’ve been jaild ; we’ve been persecuted .
        we refuse to ethiopian and Sudan’s Union.
        we fought for Eritra for Eritreans .
        we startt the revolution by forming mahber shewata the list go and on .

    • Baraee April 20, 2012

      Manfree,
      I do not know your history. Will never deny of the eitrean heroes who hapen to be jeberti who are noble and those that paid their life….that said..your recent history is nothing to be proud. While people resisited jeberti, you made a dash for the Ethiopian Embassy and were up and down to Asmara during most years of the struggle….did you ask Dergue at that time you are Behere Jeberti…did you tell Mengistu that you speak Arabic first then Tigrinia….I do not think so…you speak now because liberated land Eritrea exisits..

      • manfree888@yahoo.co.uk April 20, 2012

        MR bar
        our history is as clear as crystal , if you ask your grandfather he will tell you how they received king Haileselase with wata and mahaber andenate because they sold eritrea for melalike suwa .YOU have got a black history and is repeating by 03 and AMANUEL ASSENA.COM another believer of MAHABER HADENET COVERED BY THE BEAUTIFUL NAME assena.com.

      • jemal April 20, 2012

        The history goes back way too dip brother. But; let me start in recent miracle we perform follow me.first; We kick Hale Selaseia; we kick Mengustu, and we will kick wedi medhen Berad pretty soon if not we will never sleep until the job get it done. and if for the future it happen to be becoming some one like them what we will be doing i will leave that quetion to you to answer it . Now; as you know i refuse to serve Hale selasea ; Mengustu and Wedi medhen Berad then and know i never been a commandis ; i never been informer ; i never been a general i never been ambaseder of Etiopian.be honest with yourself have you ever heard of general or comandis Jemal
        don’t take me wrong brother all the position i mention on top it’s not because of that i can’t perform them ; what was the reason is because of i like to keep my dignity; intgrity and fathful to my nation Eritrea. i can colaberate and get unoppertunity of position;Education and Schoolarship but i don’t won’t it.
        Second question that i would like to ask you that where do you think they got their Education the officials today in Eritrea Obvesly they got it because their parents they were serving and coloberating (leklekti)with hale selasie .

  • manfree888@yahoo.co.uk April 19, 2012

    freeprison

    Mr honest and nationalist, I am not like you here to flattering to get trust from eritrean muslim and i have said to we a solid history , if you want know about us i think you know to google as long as you able to write your rabish article. When people give their point of view they racist , has got mental problem but if they agree with your discriminating article yes they are true eritrean as long as they have agreed with christian orthodox procedural and point of view.
    As I mentioned in my previous this is your old tactic and it is out of fashion and try to sale it the fresh young people.We will stand for our right and we will be victorious for sure .

    Muslim Jeberti

    • jonas-1923@hotmail.com April 19, 2012

      Manfree
      Woow Your views are scary ,hopefully with the help of the same god co-exisistence will prevail out of necessity and I know it will,

      • Baraee April 20, 2012

        jonas,
        his views do not scare me…it will scare his kids…because he is somewhere in Europe, America or Australia….our coexistence has been historic in Eritrea that welcomed Chrisitanity early and Islam early. In fact Prophet Mohammed sent his early followers(apostoles for lack of better term) to take refuge in our land…at that time there was no Eritrea or Ethiopia…in the environs of Axum. Theologians argue had they not been given a refuge and return to their land , potentially could not have spread it …

        • manfree888@yahoo.co.uk April 20, 2012

          What land do you have in eritrea? yes i leaned from your black history ,you kill people,rape woman in lowland kumadis and stealing some one belong and you even compromise
          you faith to achieve very cheap world material. you are talking to the people who have started the revelation of our beloved country and stolen by the waked so called orthodox christian and even abuse and killed other christian faiths such as johva witness and penta believers. All you history are treating people injustice ,killing and jealous.But God is the greatest and banishing by giving who is equal to evil WEDMENHEN BERAD ISYAS

          WHITHER YOU LIKE IT WE ARE JEBERTI ERITREAN AND OUR VICTORY IS CERTAIN AS WE ARE STANDING FOR THE TRUTH

          MUSLIM JEBERTI

          • Baraee April 21, 2012

            manfree,
            Keep dreaming….but please plan your retirement whereever you are….because Eritrea will have no space for you 16th century thinking.

        • jemal April 22, 2012

          Who will or who won’t go to Eritrea we should leave this to the majority. Becaouse you are one of the minority . So ; in general speaking you are not in the position to tell he or she to plan thier retirement because of they don’t have a place in Eritrea. do you have a place ?

  • manfree888@yahoo.co.uk April 19, 2012

    Ahamed Saleh

    Flattering is not acceptable in islam be honest with yourself rather than defend yourself as they are humiliating you and your people, stand farm , be confident and relay on yourself and do not be weak , weakness ,flattering the past history of eritrean people , we are not going to correct our mistake by making another mistake wake up and stand with your people. what freepri said that is not genuine but flattering and deception

    Muslim Jeberti

    • Baraee April 20, 2012

      Ahmad,
      I bet you are a naturalised citizen of the USA or Swedem or some European country or that of Australia….At some stage you were flattered by these wonderful land to decide and be it’s citizen….at least I was and am proud citizen of my adopted land…..but truly love my heritage. Please stop being hypocrite…

  • manfree888@yahoo.co.uk April 19, 2012

    Lilay

    Anta hagerseb wedi isyas bjeka neskum kal3a seb zelo zeymeslkum gezekum maltuk tewadu eu KED NAY ABUKA ISYAS EGERY HETSBE FILL THE WHITE PAPER TO BUILD A HOUSE IN ASMERA
    I KNOW YOU WELL YOU CHANGE YOUR CLOUR FOR SIMPLE AND SMALL INTEREST

    MUSLIM JEBERT

  • ahmed saleh April 19, 2012

    I do not see any connection in Islam to your arguments. I may defended more to
    Jeberti people’s cause practically back home. You look dillusioned to understand
    Eritrean patrionism.Do not forget the fight and the heavy price paid was from every
    Eritrean of all walks. If we couldn’t continue to advance ourselves fighting all
    the negatives as one people, we will remain victims of power hungry. We are only
    five million and we don’t afford divisions. As a moslem I practice love and respect,
    Respecting my father’s advise:” Try make ALLAH happy not some individuals”.

    • Baraee April 20, 2012

      Ahmed,
      I appreciate your level headed view and realistic argument. It is even further than that as people we are endowed by rich history of culture and religion. Remeber these two religions existed in our land before anywhere futher aside from their original vicinity.

  • Letinna April 19, 2012

    Lili you don’t have any right to insult others. Like others said it before you are one of the few who hate Jebety and you should correct youslf. Idris and Manfree have the right to discuss things. By the way can you tale me from where your grand fahers are? I am sure if they are Tigrigna speakers they are from Tigray or Gonder and they came to Eritrea after Jeberti did.
    These Jebrtys have the right to have their own “beher” through referendem. No one have the right to tale them what their beher is. Almost all of my friends are Jeberty and I know that they don’t call themselves beher Tigrigna but Jeberty and we should accept it.

    • Mr. T April 20, 2012

      Letinna,

      They say, “If it walks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be a duck.” If all your friends are Jeberty, so you must be a Tigrigna Jeberti. What am I saying? Please forgive me for being carried away. If you believe the Jebertis have the right not to consider themselves as a Tigrigna ethnic group, allow me to ask you the following few questions:

      1. Do the Christian Saho and the Muslim Saho also have the right to ask for a separate ethnic group name if they don’t like to have the same ethnic designation?

      2. Do the Christian Bilen or Muslim Bilen have the right to demand for a special ethnic recognition?

      3. Do the Christian Tigre (Mensa’e) or the Muslim Tigre have the right to demand for a different ethnic name because of their separate religious beliefs?

      4. Does any group of people in Eritrea, including individuals like you and me, have the right to demand for a special ethnic designation because they or we happen to exercise a different way of life compared to other groups?

      If your answer is “YES” to all the questions above, I will immediately declare my support to anyone (a village, a city, a country or a province) to have the rights and freedoms of ethnic status comparable to the status that is being demanded by the extremists and mullahs of Jeberti. I am not kidding.

      • Mr. T April 20, 2012

        Please read “county” and not “country”. Thank you.

      • jemal April 20, 2012

        no more discussion with you because first of all i can tell from your name you are an Eritrean .You are one of who brought by Alul abanega .So for that reason i think you should live that for the owners.

        • Baraee April 20, 2012

          jemal,
          No Mr. T deliberated an objective argument and does not need to be from Eritrea…even if he was from the moon he put a hypothetical but potential scenarios that could occur once you redefine …bher.
          bher is nationality defined by language. Jebertis acclaim this stance because of the TESSA-(zelum not dessa) rules of the then Awraja Seraye…if truly your history pre-dates like those of Abanega soldiers…then how is that you do not exisit in the villages of the then Hamassen and Akeleguzay…You are pretty much left in Mendefera AdiKuala area. Please let us be proud of Negash Al Habeshi who welcomed the Prophet’s men and hosted them and protected them as refugees of a religion and le tus celebrate Chrisitanity and Islam is early in our land and in democratic Eritrea we impress the world and earn it’s spiritual tourism and teach it co-existence.
          But I assure you …we will not be distracted by this lowest form of distraction that you are creating but concentrate on getting rid of the dictator we have.

          • jemal April 20, 2012

            My friend; Behr is not define by the language . oaky.a lnguage is use for communication ; And Beher is an identity Brother . according to your defintion if beher is difined by the language you speak tigrigna and Etiopian tigray they speak tigrigna as well. So; where do we or how do we identify you ?

    • Baraee April 20, 2012

      Letinna,

      History pre-dates states and country…and ruled regions of those days….so what is so much now needd to rewind it and assert. We have rich history of people and religion. If the argument is we existed first before another then it is the most ignorant thing I have hear. Where is that you existed…..then you need to re-trace oneself to the exact origin…it may very well be today’s Sanna/Yemenor today’s Axum and it’environs. Once you do then you have to make a decision whether you Agazian/Semawi etc.(you will quickly find yourself pre-Islam at the least then further pre-Christianity…..but it may be very hard to get out of Geez ownerhsip if not you would not be from the highlands of Eritrea at the minimum). What is so crazy is all this hoopla comes from elites that smile and giggle in their adopted land be it Europe , America or Australia(let us leave out middle east for another argument or other parts of Africa…because there once pysche is different)…But what I can gurantee is such identity crisis of people living in Eritrea does not exisit. Because our homeland has rich history of coexistence considering the colorful(even a family look) people and it’s diverse origin and language/nationality or bher….What is laugable is these elitist of all origin have kids who could not fathom nor could care intra their psyche influenced by where they are born today. As they mature they actually find bigger picture wins and will not pay heed to this nonsense.

    • ahmed saleh April 20, 2012

      Letinna
      The point you bring we do not call them tigrigna people but
      solely Jeberti is true. And I agree with the idea this issue to be
      resolved in future Eritrea under the law of our constitution.

      • idris April 20, 2012

        I agree with your concept of future constitution. if we can havea democratic constitution, major questions like the question of jeberti will be solved.

    • idris April 20, 2012

      Letinna,
      You told them smartly. you are one of the true hopes for eritrea!

      • ahmed saleh April 20, 2012

        Idris
        The only thing we can win our national causes is when we work
        together. I promise you there is more issues than that to Jeberti
        people injustices I know and we were fighting for their injustices.
        And you have many Eritrean good people who will respect and
        show solidarity to see fairness to their demands. To let Jeberti
        people down is to let the promise of my childhood friends and the
        ones who were fighting beside me comrades who hail from Jeberti.
        WELAH- AL AZIM just stay put and positive, you have concerned
        brothers out there. Stay strong and join the common fight.

        • ahmed saleh April 20, 2012

          Mr T
          My friend I told you before you do not have a right
          to talk for Jeberti people. I observe your hatred for long
          time not to Jeberti but to anyone . Leave the discussion
          for good hearted Eritreans we can take care it, thank you.

          • Mr. T April 20, 2012

            ahmed saleh,

            You are a poison encapsulated in a sweet coating agent. If you thing the Tigrigna speaking Jerberti do not call themselves “Tigrigna” so do the Tigrigna speaking “Tigrigna”. The Tigrigna ethnic designation is recent invented by the Eritrean rebels (both the ELF and The EPLF). The Tigrigna speaking christian Eritreans have always known themselves by the term “Habesha”.

            You are simply a crook, and the only thing I have I have to say to you is “to please get lost!”. I know what is deep inside that dark heart of yours.

  • idris April 20, 2012

    I wonder who gives or who denies the right to ‘bher’. Let us leave it up to the majority, if democracy has to work.

  • manfree888@yahoo.co.uk April 20, 2012

    BARAREE

    What land do you have in eritrea? yes i leaned from your black history ,you kill people,rape woman in lowland kumadis and stealing some one belong and you even compromise
    you faith to achieve very cheap world material. you are talking to the people who have started the revelation of our beloved country and stolen by the waked so called orthodox christian and even abuse and killed other christian faiths such as johva witness and penta believers. All you history are treating people injustice ,killing and jealous.But God is the greatest and banishing by giving who is equal to evil WEDMENHEN BERAD ISYAS

    WHITHER YOU LIKE IT WE ARE JEBERTI ERITREAN AND OUR VICTORY IS CERTAIN AS WE ARE STANDING FOR THE TRUTH

    MUSLIM JEBERTI

    • information needed April 20, 2012

      what is the difference between jiberty and jebely

      • Baraee April 21, 2012

        information needed

        jiberty is a highlander tigrinia bher muslim and jebely is from the hills of yemen(jebail in arabic).

    • Baraee April 21, 2012

      manfree,

      You are so full of hate and even do not know it is the ORTHODOX who welcomed ISLAM by accepting the first follower of Prophet Mohammad. open your book and learn of Negash Al Habeshi who gave protection to them while the arabs were looking for their head….
      I am now convinced you are sent by this director to demoralize the spirited debate in this website to distract and disperse….it is a failed game…you are no jeberti , you are a sell out…I guarantee that….because you lack history.

      • manfree888@yahoo.co.uk April 22, 2012

        Baraee,

        I am 200% Jeberti and I hate you because of your old history and current history because you all orthodox christian do not have an fixed position you blow with wind . You history well known since Halislas and orthodox church and all history black. When Eritrea liberated you sing song “WELKA ASLAMIA ISYAS METSU BESMIA”, YOU FIND ANY OPPORTUNITY TO KILL MUSLIMS AND UNDER MIND, YOU ALWAYS USE IT BUT GOD THE GREATEST ISYAS HAVE GIVEN YOU A PROPER SMACK AND YOUR DREAM HAVE BECOME UNTRUE AND YOU FLED ERITREAN LEAVING LIKE ANY OTHER ERITREAN RELIGIONS AS REFUGEE AND NOW YOU SHOUTING TO FREEDOM AND OTHER NONE SENSE LIES. AMANUEL IS ONE OF THE ISYAS SPY AND FUNDED BY ISYAS TO USE ASSENA.COM MEDIA OUT LET TO UNDER MIND MUSLIM MINISTERS SUCH AS ALI ABUDU AND OTHER MUSLIM MINSTER WHILE HE NEVER TALK ABOUT ANY GENERALS WHO ARE RAPE AND ABUSING ERITREAN YOUNG WOMEN.

        MUSLIM JEBERTI

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